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To: Raymond who wrote (20253)	12/22/1998 12:14:00 PM
From: DaveMG	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 152472

Raymond, "Another thing that has been mentioned here is that Docomo and the other operators are not really experts and is dependent on the suppliers when it comes to issues like IPR.That is just bullshit Docomo knows more about designing cellular systems then most other companies.They have designed PHS,PDC and have made a major contribution to the specificationwork for WCDMA.The only thing they don't do is the actual manufacturing of equipment.The same goes for the other operators involved like BT,France tele,DB,TIM,Telia and the others.They know exactly what is going on./R" So what is going on? And what's your interpretation of last weeks "press release" by NTT and others? TIA Dave

To: Raymond who wrote (20253)	12/22/1998 1:03:00 PM
From: Clarksterh	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 152472

Raymond - Another thing that has been mentioned here is that Docomo and the other operators are not really experts and is dependent on the suppliers when it comes to issues like IPR. While I admit that my knowledge of NTT DoCoMo is limited, I do have a lot of first hand experience with service providers (mainly satellite services, but some WLL as well) and universally they are not particularly design engineering oriented. This is not to say that they do not have a some engineers, but they are not designers, only operators, managers or maintenance. This is in no way to imply that these are less important or less technical jobs, but they are very very different from design. In every single case (no exceptions) I have ever seen it would have been easy for the manufacturer to pull the wool over the service provider's eyes. I would be stunned if most of the service suppliers involved here really knew what was going on in anything more than a cursory way. The only possible exception to this is the company you single out - NTT-DoCoMo. They are more like AT&T before they spun off Lucent. But that may effect little since when the company for which I used to work dealt with AT&T they (AT&T) were just as ignorant. (They were so segmented that we never saw the design engineers of Bell Labs) Clark PS Thanks for correcting me about the fact that NTT is planning to overlay their PDC system (about which technology I know little), not their PHS system.