SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Technology Stocks : Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (31194)12/25/1998 10:50:00 PM
From: getgo234  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
Dwight:
Thank you for your take on the accounting for the sale of gift certificates. If AMZN exceeded the Street's expectations for 4th qtr
revenue without including sales of gift certificates they may very well want to record the sales in the 1st qtr when the certificates are
redeemed so to minimize the sequential drop in sales in the first quarter which I suspect is inevitable. Thanks to you and Glenn for your insights on what I think is an important issue. ps It does sound like AMZN has some flexibility on when to record the sales- a rather
enviable situation for a retailer especially one such as AMZN which as
Glenn pointed out does not need to concern itself with federal taxes
(having no income).



To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (31194)12/26/1998 9:06:00 AM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
When the certificate is purchased, debit Cash (asset), credit Unearned Revenue (liability).

Dwight,

We are stating virtually the same thing. It is a matter of symantics on what line items names are used. The fact remains the revenue should not be sales and there are no costs of goods sold until redemption of the certificate.

In the same manner, it is totally illegal to recognize cost of goods sold without
recognizing the revenue in the same quarter. Any company that did this would be getting
a call from the IRS, with heavy penalties the likely result.


We are back to symantics. It is illegal to recognize cost of goods sold without recgonizing sales rather than just revenue.

With AMZN wanting to tally all certificates in the sales column for this quarter, I would
guess that they will use an estimated Cost of Goods Sold number. I would guess that the
IRS allows this.


I would agree although this is not GAAP. Amazon does not believe in GAAP regardless <VBG>.

Glenn