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To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:14:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part I)
since the street.com has become so popular here I just thought I'll dig up what I could
find on ONSL over there in the past month,

DATE CLOSING PRICE OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
11/30/98 61.500 106.375 108.000 48.000 14,285,300

here's what Cramer had to say in the afternoon, note the disclaimer,,
does he openly say he shorted it that day ??

archive.thestreet.com

Wrong! Dispatches from the Front: A
Bull's Time-Out

By James J. Cramer
11/30/98 2:37 PM ET

Here we go. The bearish rap on the tube. One day, one
&%^#&^#^# day that we go down, and the bears jump out of
their cages and do a jig! Give me a break. The most bullish
thing that could happen is a pullback. If we didn't get one I
would be convinced this whole move really was just a short
squeeze. We are now paying the price of the Onsale
(ONSL:Nasdaq) craze, and, heck, like teenagers getting
lectured by their folks for coming home too late, we get
yelled at by the market. We deserve it. We will get over it in
a couple of days. A time-out, for you younger parents.

My take? If you have never owned a Net stock in your life
and want to take the plunge, you are going to get your
chance. If you have ridden Books-A-Million
(BAMM:Nasdaq) up to the 30s, it's not too late to cash out.
If you have decided to make that an "investment" instead of
a trade, what are you doing reading this? You should be
looking at the Burpee catalogue to pick your next dynamite
investment.

And if the money is burning a hole in your pocket, switch
pockets. You will probably get some good prices during the
week.

I have started two new positions today. Nothing aggressive.
And I have nibbled at some highflying brokerage stocks that
have pulled back.

I keep hoping more bears will come out and dance the jig
that the move was phony. Get some more shorts in there to
help knock down stocks. And then the next move up will be
seeded.

James J. Cramer is manager of a hedge fund and
co-chairman of TheStreet.com. Under no circumstances
does the information in this column represent a
recommendation to buy or sell stocks. Cramer's writings
provide insights into the dynamics of money management
and are not a solicitation for transactions. While he cannot
provide investment advice or recommendations, he invites
you to comment on his column by sending a letter to
TheStreet.com at letters@thestreet.com.



To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:16:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part II)

archive.thestreet.com

DATE CLOSING PRICE OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
-------- ------------- -------- -------- -------- -----------
12/01/98 54.250 50.875 63.000 50.750 9,088,600

is he still short ???

Wrong! Dispatches from the Front: Don't
Miss Out

By James J. Cramer
12/1/98 8:37 AM ET

The whole thing was phony. The transports never confirmed
it. Shorts squeezed the market up. It was a huge bubble,
aided by the Fed's needless panic. It didn't belong above
9000 before and it does not belong above 9000 now. Hideous
double top. The Net made us do it. Onsale.com
(ONSL:Nasdaq) is right. Markdowns a-coming.

Okay, there. I did it. I articulated the whole bearish rap.
...snipp
rest of it is irrelevant



To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:17:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part III)

archive.thestreet.com

DATE CLOSING PRICE OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
-------- ------------- -------- -------- -------- -----------
12/03/98 38.875 53.938 56.250 37.500 6,340,900

Susan Galante, causes panic..ONSL goes below 40, If Cramers fund is still short,
she might have earned a good Xmas bonus

she also wrote an article on insider selling in BAMM...

Silicon Valley: All Crowded on the
Auction Front

By Suzanne Galante
Staff Reporter
12/3/98 11:36 AM ET

SAN FRANCISCO -- When uBid is offered to the public
market this week, it's almost certain to get an obscenely
warm welcome. After all, as eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq) and
Onsale (ONSL:Nasdaq) have found, the online auction
market is popular with investors and online customers alike.

But that very popularity may become uBid's undoing later on.
The field of online auctioneers is a little too popular with
homesteading start-ups -- and the market isn't big enough for
them all. After all, the barriers to entry are tiny. If you've got
something to sell, whip up a Web site and put out a press
release. Dealdeal.com did, touting its "enormous" auction
site last week.

Demand for uBid is already high. Shares of its parent, direct
marketer Creative Computers (MALL:Nasdaq), have risen
sevenfold in recent weeks, partly because Creative will divest
itself of its ownership in uBid to stockholders and partly
because online auctions are hot shares to hold these days.
As early as Friday uBid is expected to offer 1.58 million
shares at $13 to $14 a share.

While the buzz surrounding online auctions will help uBid's
IPO today, it will also draw new competitors in the future. "A
valid criticism of some Internet companies is that the barriers
are not insurmountable for any new entrant," says John Leo,
a portfolio manager who owns eBay in his Northern
Technology fund. "And that would be true of online auction or
online retailing in general." Leo sat in on uBid's roadshow
and says he hasn't decided whether he'll get in.

UBid's auction offers excess merchandise, including
close-out and refurbished products, directly to users.
Product offerings include computers, consumer electronics
and home gadgets like rice cookers and juicers. In other
words, it's a direct competitor to Onsale -- a company that
had third-quarter revenues nearly four times as big as uBid's.

And there aren't many niches left that uBid could dominate.
In addition to uBid's range of products, Onsale auctions off
sporting goods, vacation packages and furniture.
Egghead.com (EGGS:Nasdaq) is in the business of selling
refurbished goods. And eBay brings individual buyers and
sellers together.

"There is a lot of competition out there, and uBid has a very
narrow niche," says Steven Tuen, director of research at IPO
Value Monitor. "They don't have a unique story at all."

But the competition doesn't end there. Some of the portals
are expanding their offerings with auction sites of their own.
Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq) launched Yahoo Auctions in
September through a deal with Onsale. The Internet
Shopping Network has its own auction site called First
Auction. WebAuction, the auction site of
MicroWarehouse, also sells new and refurbished goods.
And there are countless others. Yahoo's Web directory lists
more than 100 auction sites, offering everything from
celebrity doodles to boats once owned by the late Romanian
dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.

In addition to competing with other auction sites, these
companies also go up against America Online
(AOL:NYSE), a powerhouse in online commerce that offers
access to auctions to its 13 million members. In addition,
many PC manufacturers are selling directly to customers. At
Dell (DELL:Nasdaq), Internet sales made up about a fifth of
its $4.8 billion in revenue in the September quarter.

One barrier rising to block out new entrants is one that may
work against uBid: brand. As time passes, the value of
online brands rises, but the chances of building a strong one
decline. "History has shown that the leaders of markets
typically win, win, win," says Andrew Mann, a fund manager
at Eureka Capital Management. "The me-too companies
have their day in the sun, but the surviving franchise is
usually the [company that was around] first." That would give
Onsale, AOL and Yahoo an advantage over uBid, Mann
says.

Longer term, uBid's best hope is that there will be room for
several online auction sites. "Perhaps there is enough room
for more than one winner," says Eureka's Mann. "There is
enormous, enormous demand, and the vast majority of
people on this planet have not touched a computer to buy
products with."



To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:18:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part IV)

archive.thestreet.com

DATE CLOSING PRICE OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
-------- ------------- -------- -------- -------- -----------
12/04/98 36.438 44.250 46.000 32.500 5,505,500

Cramer claiming victory on both ONSL and BAMM ????

Wrong! Take Two: Cramer's Rewrite of
His 'Take It Where You Can Get It'
Column

By James J. Cramer
12/5/98 11:29 AM ET

...
...
That said, at least Onsale (ONSL:Nasdaq) broke down. So
the purists can claim a scalp. (Watch this stock closely
next week. For some bizarre reason it is the most
overweighted in the TSC Internet Index (DOT) and I
think that as it goes, so goes the index. I am "keying"
on ONSL to see how the Internet complex will trade.)
And Books-a-Million (BAMM:Nasdaq) cracked. There's
another little victory.

Guess that's enough for the day. (This is my predilection
in favor of seeing the froth wrung out of the market.
The insiders, it seems, can't craft stock fast enough.
That said, no sooner had I written this then four
insiders registered shares of BAMM for sale. May the
day not be distant to when people are embarrassed to
be caught dumping stock right after the pop-up, so
embarrassed that they would never even think of
cashing out now. )
...
...



To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:19:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part V)

archive.thestreet.com

DATE CLOSING PRICE OPEN HIGH LOW VOLUME
-------- ------------- -------- -------- -------- -----------
12/08/98 39.750 40.500 44.750 38.500 3,300,500

someone else ...
read what she says about onsl

The Chartist: Charting the .coms

By Helene Meisler
Special to TheStreet.com
12/8/98 10:55 AM ET

I can't believe it. When Federal Express (FDX:NYSE)
moves on its apparent link to the Internet, it is with
absolutely, positively irrational exuberance. What else would
you call it?

Just a few months ago, FedEx was reporting disappointing
earnings, its pilots were going on strike and its Asian
business was awful. What a difference a .com makes!
Apparently not everyone got sucked into Monday's move.
FedEx only closed up about 4 on the day -- sounds great,
eh? But look at the chart: It closed on its low! Thankfully
some people came to their senses and sold into the news.

This caused me to take a closer look at some of the "older"
Internet stocks, those that have been trading for longer than
a month -- in fact, at least a year. I chart America Online
(AOL:NYSE), Amazon.com (AMZN:Nasdaq) and Yahoo!
(YHOO:Nasdaq) at home each day. But I also decided to
have a look at several others, including eBay
(EBAY:Nasdaq) and Onsale (ONSL:Nasdaq).

Much to my surprise, some of these charts have been in a
corrective phase for a few weeks now and actually look OK
in here. The ones that look like Onsale are certainly not
stocks I would want to own; they are simply part of the
irrational exuberance.

Look at eBay first. It hasn't broken its uptrend line. So, it's
really done nothing wrong yet. In fact, what would make the
chart look awful is one of two things: breaking the uptrend
line, which comes in around 150, or rallying and failing to
make a new high. If the stock rallies and fails to surpass the
high made in mid-November, it is likely to come down and
make a lower low or break a trend line. That's typically how a
pattern develops, and that's essentially two swings away
from where we are now. Therefore, the stock is still OK for
now.



Next is Amazon.com. Amazon actually spent four months
building that base from which it shot up to the moon. I've
done the calculations, and the target on this stock from that
consolidation was around 202. It overshot it by a 10% margin
-- no big deal. (In calculating the target, I took the high of the
pattern at 147, from which I subtracted the low of the pattern
at 65. I came up with 82. I added 82 to the point of breakout,
which, in this case, was 120, giving me a target price of 202.
These are just general areas, not exact measurements.) This
trip down looks like a simple pullback after a long, steep
haul.

What would turn this chart negative? It would first need a
failing rally. This is not a parabolic chart; it is simply one that
overshot its upside target. So, for now, this chart is OK as
well.



Now, if you want to look at a parabolic chart, and one that is
not good, have a look at Onsale. Any stock that makes a
round trip as fast as this one did is not one I want to own. It
looks like a classic case of a short squeeze. I figure there
were shorts in the stock who were forced to buy it back at
ridiculous prices. They ran it up, and, as soon as the
unnatural demand was filled, the stock fell back to where it
belonged. Do not expect this stock to come close to its highs again.



Having looked at several of these stock charts now, I
surmise that some are stocks to own if you want to invest in
that group, but there are so many wannabes that it's easy to
get caught up in the frenzy. Thus far, the only charts of the
many I looked at that appear OK for now are Yahoo,
Amazon.com, America Online and eBay. Sure, they may
correct more (and should), but their uptrends are still intact,
making those corrections buying opportunities for now.

(Readers, please do not write me with individual Internet
stock questions as those mentioned are the only ones I will
comment or give opinions on).

The stock market as a whole continues to act better on the
downside than on the upside. When the market was down
last week, stocks were holding and correcting in a positive
fashion. When the rally ignited on Friday's employment
report, the participation on the upside was not impressive.

There's been an awful lot of upside action in the technology
sector, but that seems to be the only place where stocks are
making new highs. That is not broad enough for me. Such is
the nature of a liquidity-driven market -- too much money
chasing too few stocks.

I am a buyer into a decent correction, not before.



To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:21:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part VI)

On 21st onsl spiked up 26 points
Susan came out that evening, with her now infamous article on ONSL

and whats this,, next day,, Cramer hinting ONSL is a buy ??????
was she trying to bring the price down because Cramer forgot to go long
after covering his short position ??? No, I'm getting overboard with my imaginations.

archive.thestreet.com

Wrong! Rear Echelon Revelations: The
Gold Rush

By James J. Cramer
12/22/98 12:15 AM ET

Can't stand to hear about the Net anymore? Valuations
driving you crazy? Well, what do you expect me to write
about, how oil service companies are having trouble making
their numbers? How Hercules (HPC:NYSE) blew up after
the close?

Net stocks are the only things people are thinking about
these days. Any attempt to talk about savings and loans or
chemicals or auto parts seems hopelessly irrelevant.
Nobody cares, not one bit.

That said, there is a year-end phenomenon at work, one that
has a huge impact on groups like this. People want to show
they own winners. If this group had faltered somehow in
November and not come back, the vigor with which people
are piling in to them would subside rather dramatically.

But if you don't show that you own any Net stocks and you
run money professionally, the discussion goes like this:

Investor Jeff: "So, what do you think of the Net stocks?"

Manager Jim: "They are stupid, the valuations are so out of
control. I like the stock of National Gift Wrap and Box
Company. It sells at $24 but has book of $12 and one day it
will get a takeover as management is committed to bringing
out value. In the meantime it pays 2.5% and I can sleep at
night."

Investor Jeff: "Do you think all of these stocks are just
bubbles? Can't you get comfortable with any of them?"

Manager Jim: "No way, they are all ridiculous."

Investor Jeff: "While that is very prudent, my other managers
have made a fortune in these, so I have to go with them."

The only way to combat that rather obvious conversation is
to say, "Hey, I own some America Online (AOL:NYSE). It
has a good business model and it is making money." Or,
"The Web portal business could be huge so I am long some
Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq)." Or, "A lot of them make no sense
to me, but I have become comfortable with the plan Lycos
(LCOS:Nasdaq) has put in place."

Then at least you have a fighting chance to keep the money
and get more in. But to be able to say that, you have to get
long. You have to buy. And when you are running $1 billion
or more, as many people do these days, you can't just own
a couple of thousand Onsale (ONSL:Nasdaq). You have to
have a full position in the name, meaning a couple of a
percent at a minimum. A couple of a percent of $1 billion is a
ton of money and you have to compete with dozens of other
managers playing the same game. Consequently, you get
stocks up 25 or 30 points. That said, one point I must stress: These particular price
moves are like no others I have seen in my life. The sheer
velocity, coupled with the lack of any profit-taking, is nothing
short of incredible to me and to everybody who trades
professionally. The simultaneous ascension of Internet
traders, of Internet commerce and the paucity, still, of
Internet shares relative to the demand, is a level of
serendipity that nobody banked on.

It is not difficult to be both shocked and numbed. The runs
these stocks are having are just staggering. The market's
lack of rigor in valuation, the sheer craziness of it all, defies
anything I have ever believed could happen. And I'm a
believer in the Net. I can't recall a time when the market was
less skeptical, more gullible, more willing to overlook fanciful
claims and buy into the rap of virtually anything Net.

And yet it goes on.

One day maybe we will look back and say, How come
nobody said, "Hey, this is crazy. These things can't all be
winners"? Not every company is going to make hay on the
Net. Some of these companies have nothing. But by then
maybe things will have doubled or tripled again. Once
something gets overvalued, it gets that much easier to get
twice or three times as overvalued.

Until then, the gold rush of 1998 continues unabated. And
who am I to tell you there's no gold in them there hills when
we have seen billions in gold created already?




To: afrayem onigwecher who wrote (2867)12/27/1998 6:22:00 PM
From: Apache Indian  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 4903
 
thestreet.com: long or short ? (Part VII)

last one... does cramer think onsl is a great buy ???
are they done with their manipulation ?? who knows.
hope you had as much fun reading all this, as I did this past 2 hours....

archive.thestreet.com

Wrong! Dispatches from the Front:
Eavesdropping on Portfolio Meetings

By James J. Cramer
12/23/98 2:22 PM ET

"So few good stocks to buy, so little time. Let's be sure we
own some Net. Gotta own some chips. Like the networkers.
Hey, couple of winning drug stocks. Stick in a software
company. And a PC maker.

"How about oils, airlines, rails, papers, chemicals, coppers,
aluminums, retail, utilities, REITS, etc., etc., etc.

"Fuggedaboudit."

There. You just sat in every portfolio meeting that is going on
in the country right now. I wish there were more to it, and
sometime in the first quarter there will be. But this is the end
of the year, and people have to look at what you own and
what you know, and you don't want to know Arco
(ARC:NYSE) and Bowater (BOW:NYSE). You want to
know eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq) and Onsale (ONSL:Nasdaq)!

Until then, enjoy.