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To: ahhaha who wrote (3637)	12/30/1998 2:41:00 PM
From: Stuart C Hall	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 29970

Let's do some housekeeping here: AOL, SUNW and NSCP will fail. AOL's current position is only due to the fact that they were here at the beginning of the Internet. They've not moved forward much in sophistication since the early days instead resting on their laurels and feeding their lame service to an unsuspecting public with few options. I thought they would be dead when they finally dropped per minute charges for flat rates and couldn't handle the traffic. They got bailed out on that. This NSCP merger will not go down so smoothly. Now that the world is rapidly marching towards a Netcentric life they decide to drop the proprietary interface and buy NSCP. The combination of AOL, NSCP and SUNW is only missing AAPL to round out this foursome of MSFT patsies. I agree with the earlier statement that ATHM has what everyone needs: bandwidth. It's why I'm here and why I'm expecting us to have a lot of company soon. Who is going to go develop for an overly bloated AOL running 56-128k vs. ATHM who is in cahoots with MSFT and serving fat delicious pipes to your home for $40/month? No contest. I don't care who has Java. For the record MSFT has stifled any company which has come to market with an innovative product until they could launch an inferior replica and integrate it into the greatest piece of trash OS ever written. I'm not a Gates fan but I don't mess with his success. So, we have AOL, NSCP and SUNW spinning their wheels while MSFT has played all the cards and is now in a perfect position to help ATHM grow as it best suits their interests. This is exactly where I want to be. Best regards, Stuart

To: ahhaha who wrote (3637)	12/30/1998 5:08:00 PM
From: RocketMan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29970

No. The relation between AOL and SUNW will sour immediately. Well, I can see why you would say that. I don't disagree, except I don't think they can afford to have it sour "immediately." Java? Why would AOL want that? For their next generation "AOL Anywhere" client? You don't run that language where speed is of the essence... True, but... and picoJava isn't good enough. And I'm sure MSFT was working hard changing it in order to make it "good enough," right? LOL If it is not "good enough," somebody better tell Fujitsu, NEC, and Siemens to stop working on their picoJava-based embedded systems. That is a pretty blanket statement to make without justification, isn't it? Is there a strategic agreement between AOL and SUNW? What does strategic mean? To agree in principle to fight the barbarian, MSFT? Not directly, that is just gravy.