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To: Brian Hutcheson who wrote (44507)1/1/1999 11:05:00 AM
From: Joey Smith  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1571785
 
re:K6-2 400 low price on Pricewatch now $168 (-$20 since last week)
Should indicate very good production levels for 400 mhz part.
very likely also indicates K6-3 close to release .

Keep dreaming. The sole reason for K6-2 price cuts is due to Celeron 400, AMD's worst night-mare. Check out this glowing review. Intel's segmentation strategy for 1999 is clear: Celeron, Katmai, and Xeon. AMD will be scrambling all year long to keep up.

joey

News December 31, 23:42 Eastern Time
Dec. 31, 1998 (Computer Reseller News - CMP via COMTEX) -- Until now, Intel
Corp.'s Celeron CPUs came in either 300MHz or 333MHz units. But today, Intel is
announcing newer, faster versions, boasting clock speeds of 366MHz and 400MHz.

These new Celerons pack quite a performance punch, at least as tested in the Compaq
Computer Corp. 400MHz Celeron-based system that forms the basis of this review.
When the original Celeron CPU first hit the market, its performance was less than
impressive because early versions had practically no internal memory cache.
Second-generation Celerons were equipped with a 128-Kbyte cache, and the CPUs
became a lot more competitive.

It should be noted that all Celeron CPUs still have a 66MHz system bus speed, as
opposed to the new Pentium II CPUs and motherboards, with 100MHz buses. Having
only a 66MHz bus speed means less expensive motherboards can be used to build
Celeron systems.

Compaq Deskpro EP
The Compaq Deskpro EP was configured with the 400MHz Celeron CPU, 64 Mbytes
of memory, a 6-Gbyte Maxstor Ultra-ATA hard drive and a 32X CD-ROM drive. The
system also featured a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP graphics accelerator with 8
Mbytes of memory, a 10/100 network interface card (NIC) and a 16-bit ISA sound
card. Though none of these components would be considered state-of-the-art, the
system delivers near-state-of-the-art performance. The system came preloaded with
Windows NT 4.0 Workstation.

Like all Compaq products, the Deskpro EP is built well and is fairly easy to service. In
addition, this is one of the most affordable systems ever put together by Compaq, yet it
also offers great performance.

Resellers will like the flexibility the Compaq Deskpro EP offers. Like many other
Compaq systems, this one is housed in a convertible chassis that can be configured as a
desktop or tower system. The drive cage inside the chassis can be mounted in different
positions, allowing external drive bays to be configured vertically or horizontally with
respect to the shape of the case. The system can therefore be adapted for use in any
setting or to replace either a desktop or tower unit.

The Deskpro EP was tested for performance using the BAPCo SYSmark test suite for
Windows NT 4.0. Video resolution was set at 1,024 x 768 in true color with a 75Hz
refresh rate, which are the Test Center's standard settings for testing systems.
Incredibly, Compaq's 400MHz Celeron-based system generated a SYSmark score of
339, which is almost as fast as the slowest 450MHz Pentium II system ever examined
by CRN Test Center engineers and not too far from the highest score ever seen. That
honor went to a 450MHz Pentium II system made by NexTrend, which scored 391.

Needless to say, a score of 339 is quite good for a system that costs about half as much
as a state-of-the-art Pentium II system. CRN Test Center engineers believe Celeron
sales will take off this year, considering the performance they are now capable of
delivering.

More information on the performance of Celeron systems can be found in the CRN
Test Center's upcoming distributor-branded white-box system roundup, slated for
publication in the Jan. 18 issue of CRN. Those systems are all Celeron-based, though
none of them are 400MHz units-one of them is a 366MHz unit and the others are all
333MHz.

Weighted Grade Average: A-
Construction Quality: A
Serviceability: B
Performance: A
Pros
One of the most affordable systems available from Compaq, the Deskpro EP can be
converted from desktop to tower style. The 400MHz version performed well.

Cons
The heavy Deskpro EP is not easy to move around. In addition, the system is not
suitable for use as a high-end graphics workstation.

Price: $1,405
Warranty: 3 years



To: Brian Hutcheson who wrote (44507)1/1/1999 2:09:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1571785
 
Brian - Re: " K6-2 400 low price on Pricewatch now $168 (-$20 since last week) Should indicate very good production levels for 400 mhz part. very likely also indicates K6-3 close to release ."

Hooooooooo baby ! The 400 MHz K6-2 prices are in a FREEFALL.

Whatever spin you put on this can't change the fact that AMD's revenues are FALLING AGAIN !

I think the REAL PROBLEM is Compaq !

Compaq has a 400 MHz Celeron reviewed by Computer Reseller News - and it will be LAUNCHED on MONDAY, January, 4, 1999

The reality is that Compaq has CUT BACK 400 MHz K6-2 purchases and is GEARING UP 400 MHz Celeron purchases !

I highly recommend you buy some Intel stock, Brian - your eyes are "blinkered" and you are missing out on some REAL OPPORTUNITY for FINANCIAL SUCCESS !

Paul

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News December 31, 23:42 Eastern Time
Dec. 31, 1998 (Computer Reseller News - CMP via COMTEX) -- Until now, Intel Corp.'s Celeron CPUs came in either 300MHz or 333MHz units. But today, Intel is announcing newer, faster versions, boasting clock speeds of 366MHz and 400MHz.

These new Celerons pack quite a performance punch, at least as tested in the Compaq Computer Corp. 400MHz Celeron-based system that forms the basis of this review. When the original Celeron CPU first hit the market, its performance was less than impressive because early versions had practically no internal memory cache. Second-generation Celerons were equipped with a 128-Kbyte cache, and the CPUs became a lot more competitive.

It should be noted that all Celeron CPUs still have a 66MHz system bus speed, as opposed to the new Pentium II CPUs and motherboards, with 100MHz buses. Having only a 66MHz bus speed means less expensive motherboards can be used to build Celeron systems.

Compaq Deskpro EP

The Compaq Deskpro EP was configured with the 400MHz Celeron CPU,
64 Mbytes of memory, a 6-Gbyte Maxstor Ultra-ATA hard drive and a 32X CD-ROM drive. The system also featured a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP graphics accelerator with 8 Mbytes of memory, a 10/100 network interface card (NIC) and a 16-bit ISA sound card. Though none of these components would be considered state-of-the-art, the system delivers near-state-of-the-art performance. The system came preloaded with Windows NT 4.0 Workstation.

Like all Compaq products, the Deskpro EP is built well and is fairly easy to service. In addition, this is one of the most affordable systems ever put together by Compaq, yet it also offers great performance.

Resellers will like the flexibility the Compaq Deskpro EP offers. Like many other Compaq systems, this one is housed in a convertible chassis that can be configured as a desktop or tower system. The drive cage inside the chassis can be mounted in different positions, allowing external drive bays to
be configured vertically or horizontally with respect to the shape of the case. The system can therefore be adapted for use in any setting or to replace either a desktop or tower unit.

The Deskpro EP was tested for performance using the BAPCo SYSmark
test suite for Windows NT 4.0. Video resolution was set at 1,024 x 768 in true
color with a 75Hz refresh rate, which are the Test Center's standard settings
for testing systems. Incredibly, Compaq's 400MHz Celeron-based system
generated a SYSmark score of 339, which is almost as fast as the slowest
450MHz Pentium II system ever examined by CRN Test Center engineers
and not too far from the highest score ever seen. That honor went to a
450MHz Pentium II system made by NexTrend, which scored 391.

Needless to say, a score of 339 is quite good for a system that costs about
half as much as a state-of-the-art Pentium II system. CRN Test Center
engineers believe Celeron sales will take off this year, considering the
performance they are now capable of delivering.

More information on the performance of Celeron systems can be found in the
CRN Test Center's upcoming distributor-branded white-box system roundup,
slated for publication in the Jan. 18 issue of CRN. Those systems are all
Celeron-based, though none of them are 400MHz units-one of them is a
366MHz unit and the others are all 333MHz.

Weighted Grade Average: A-
Construction Quality: A
Serviceability: B
Performance: A
Pros
One of the most affordable systems available from Compaq, the Deskpro EP
can be converted from desktop to tower style. The 400MHz version
performed well.

Cons
The heavy Deskpro EP is not easy to move around. In addition, the system is
not suitable for use as a high-end graphics workstation.

Price: $1,405
Warranty: 3 years