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To: LegalBeast who wrote (22112)1/5/1999 4:36:00 PM
From: Siber  Respond to of 43774
 
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To: LegalBeast who wrote (22112)1/5/1999 4:40:00 PM
From: Valkyrie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 43774
 
so...what have we here...somebody is smarter than you jhild...i told you before, we have some pretty talented people in this group...kinda stepped on it this time didnt ya...hooboy...even with alla your spiro words...i tell ya, ya just never know who's listening in around here...just put on your little hat and go to the back of the class...

uh, thats gonna be one blue star for the legal beast...

anyway jhild, as long as we are talking about this here legal stuff, you and me, you might as well answer the question about the legalities regarding...well, you know...'bout them there little companies...just like the one we got here...you know the one that dont do what you tell em to...

if herb and cheesehead enjoyed last night, today outta really givem a spin...sorry jhild...you lost this round...in a biblical sense i mean...do unto others, etcetera...i knew you were pompous, but i didnt really think you were a blowhard...

gotta go...there goes that fallin sky again...

donald duck...(boo!)



To: LegalBeast who wrote (22112)1/6/1999 1:01:00 AM
From: jhild  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 43774
 
Well there Little Buddy, looks like you didn't read the account closely enough. At least not closely enough to stop your reflexive stuttering of the word irresponsible. The article says:

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Department of Justice announced today that it has intervened in a qui tam lawsuit originally filed by the Virgin Islands Housing Authority alleging a construction company and several of its officers defrauded the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development of $800,000 by submitting false claims for the renovation and rehabilitation of two public housing projects in the Virgin Islands.

So let's see, they intervened. That seems very much different than the impression that you would like to leave, that they were involuntarily compelled to become involved. (Just as compelled I guess to make that public statement of their actions.)

Now by looking at the definition that you chose to give of qui tam, it would seem that you have put your own biased spin on its definition, I suppose for your own purposes. A more literal meaning for the phrase that you have quoted is "who as well for the king as for himself sues in this matter". You might have considered using it as it is descriptive, even to laymen about what the real process is. (http://www.quitam.com/quitam1.html )

It seems to me to simply mean that someone (in this case the Virgin Island Housing Authority, itself a local government entity) brought suit on behalf of themselves (evidently their housing project) and (since it apparently involved HUD funds paid out, and unfortunately applied for by themselves on the basis of the fradulent documents submitted by Carl Kruze et al.) they filed it as a qui tam action apparently in US District Court. The Justice Department when such actions are brought seem to indeed have full discretion as to whether they join this case. (http://www.quitam.com/quitam6.html ) It is important to note that since they did so, there must have been some merit. But then you already knew that didn't you?

"exactly ... they had no choice"

What, why no you didn't already know?
Quite the little legal beast aren't you? (Still feeling responsible yourself, Little Buddy?) And you're the one making the claim of being a legal student. Don't they teach ethics in your curriculum? Or are you working for Carl?