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To: Gil Gilbertson who wrote (4175)1/9/1999 3:20:00 PM
From: DavidCG  Respond to of 13953
 
Hi guys.. have you looked around the sector for bargains? Like NDB?

EGRP now trades 900 times earnings. And I don't know where it will stop.. who knows, maybe EGRP is worth 2000 times earnings.

However, what I DO know, is that there are a few internet brokerages with awesome earnings lagging this sector.

Why? there is no analyst coverage of them....YET.

Take SWS.. two days ago.. basically no coverage. Then some obscure analyst upgrades SWS from a neutral to a BUY at $22.50 a share.. now SWS is up to $27.

Note something.. analysts are BEHIND the CURVE of us small investors.

He didn't make it a buy at $16-$18 like I did..he waited several days after the movement at $22.

Where is all of this going?

How about NDB (National Discount Brokerage) ndb.com ?

It announced, 1-2 weeks back record earnings of .42 eps for the second quarter. Last year, the same quarter produced .18 eps. In other words, its GROWTH RATE is 250% over 1 year. That's impressive.

NDB then shot up from $14 to $33.50 the day after the earnings announcement. I thought $33 seemed a little too high and a little to fast for my taste. So I shyed away until it came back a little.

The good news is that profit taking, or panic from the people buying in the 30's sent this stock back to $17-$18 which to me seems like a huge bargain for a brokerage with a good brand name in this internet discount brokerage sector.

Why?

There are 14 million shares outstanding and a low float of 4 million.

If we multiply .42 X 4 quarters (and I believe EPS from quarter to quarter will increase...not decrease in the coming year) we have a year EPS of $1.68

$17 / $1.68 eps = a P/E ratio of 10

Now call me crazy again..as people did with SWS when IT had a P/E of merely 8-9..but
I believe the market is soon going to pick up on this discrepency in low price and drive it into the mid - high 20's.

SWS, on thursday, got upgraded from a neutral to a buy and it went from $22 to $27 in two days.

No analysts have coverage on NDB yet..imagine what happens when they INITIATE coverage.

If it can happen to someone smaller like SWS... it WILL happen to NDB.

Again, EGRP is trading at $68 - $70 a share these days at 900 times earnings.

Is NDB worth 15 times earnings? 20 times earnings?

Remember, internet stocks aren't just valued on earnings.. they are valued moreso on GROWTH potential. NDB has both!

You make the call.

Good Trading!

-DavidCG



To: Gil Gilbertson who wrote (4175)1/9/1999 7:17:00 PM
From: Lennart Steiner  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13953
 
Earnings report on Monday 1/11/99 will show a loss of $ 0.24/share (only!) according to Bill Burnham, analyst with Credit Suisse First Boston.

That estimate is down from his earlier estimated loss of 25 cents, and lower than analysts' consensus of a 30-cent loss, because of ''significantly higher than expected trading volumes,'' Burnham wrote. For the full 1999 fiscal year, E*Trade will lose 3 cents, down from his earlier projection of 12 cents, Burnham said.

quote.bloomberg.com

Gil, what kind of impact does this have on your "very interesting" outlook onto Monday in regards to this specific stock?



To: Gil Gilbertson who wrote (4175)1/10/1999 2:22:00 AM
From: Jerry Miller  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13953
 
" We are either at or may have passed on Friday the
climatic top to some of the internet stocks."


maybe not just yet.
we still have the numbers to look forward to.

no one wanted to hold over the weekend, is all.