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To: Andrew H who wrote (27883)	1/10/1999 7:34:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

Andrew: You may see it that way now, but I think you are very intelligent and given time you will begin to understand the subtle difference that is actually crucial to individual liberties and freedoms. FT

To: Andrew H who wrote (27883)	1/10/1999 9:10:00 PM
From: Charliss	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hi Andy, Nothing quite like a little break from the stress of trading over here on the feelings thread! Of course, we aren't always relaxed over here either.... > both the good of the Union and the rights of the individual.< Yes. Earlier on, I noticed a wonderful post by Sam Ferguson about there being a natural tendency toward health and wholeness and the advantage of the individual aligning oneself with this tendency. Because of conflicts, and how we are educated to deal with them, we are often estranged from this naturalness and we can become sick as individuals, as examples of relationships, as institutions, and as nations. Resolution and remedy is then sought within the new context created by the conflict itself, and so the estrangement from the self and from others is perpetuated by the very attempt at solution- actually, I should say, by attempting to solve the problem with the problem. Any attempt to build union or create community by starting with the common good as the focal point fails because at the start of any endeavour the "common good" is non-existent. It is not a thing that can be pointed at and where we can say there it is. With the individual, we can do this. Take, as an example, the instance of the family. It cannot really be described as a "family," functioning as a whole, as something beyond biological relationship, until it realizes its potential as a family. Once there is this self actualization as a family, its "common good" becomes more or less a given. The family cares for itself, sometimes almost effortlessly it seems, quite naturally, and with this kind of freedom it can afford to share its own wholeness and vigor with others where assistance may be needed. I use the word afford because with the experience of self actualization there is not any fear of scarcity, no fear of loss associated with giving or loving. Loving becomes natural, compassion and assistance are simple. The realized family creates, it does not make up things, and it extends itself outward. This realization of the family potential depends on the actualization of its parts. We are each one of us born with the potential for individuality, and to experience the self beyond our mere existence as an organism requires a context for growth where the potential for individuality is regarded as sacred and is highly valued. Without finding ways in which individuality can be nurtured and allowed to flourish, the "common good" will never be realized, for, as Sam has pointed out, what we all have in common on this earth is this natural tendency to growth and the individualization of wholeness. The oppression of this potential is contrary to the common good. Best wishes, Charliss PS....What do you think of our HDIE investment now? Really something, isn't it!!