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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (28207)	1/15/1999 9:10:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You said in YOUR AREA, YOUR wife could not get a pelvic exam. But no problem. You lied. You lied. You lied. >I can look them up in the phone book, and my wife cannot get a pap smear there. They don't do them. Just abortions, it's big money for everyone. < (Apparently he CAN'T look them up in the phone book)

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (28207)	1/15/1999 11:16:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Bob, I live in a country where abortion is strictly illegal. It is also very common. Many women use traditional herbal potions that make the woman violently ill; they do not always succeed; when they do not, severe birth defects often result. Underground practitioners do a thriving business; sanitation is poor and secondary infections, sometimes fatal, often result. Most who seek abortions here fall into two categories, By far the most numerous are married Catholic women whose husbands refuse to participate in the wildly ineffective forms of birth control prescribed by that church. Most are destitute, most have other children which they cannot support, most are malnourished and physically incapable of supporting another pregnancy. Another major group are very young women who have been seduced, often using highly coercive measures, by much older men, who promptly dump them when they become pregnant. Do you have any idea what life in an inner-city slum is like for a young woman, in third or first worlds? Would you like to have the choice between finding a "protector" - with sex as the tradeoff - or being free meat for anyone to harass? How much legal protection do you think is provided for young women in this position, many of whom are themselves products of unwanted pregnancies themselves, and who have had none of the childhood support and training that would enable them to develop what you would call a "moral foundation"? I am not morally comfortable with the decision these women make, but as I am not and cannot be in their position, I cannot prevent the circumstances they are in, and I cannot provide for their care in pregnancy or support their children, it is morally impossible for me to object. And yes, there are a few who were simply irresponsible, but I would suspect that very few of them approach the prospect of abortion as lightly as you would have us believe. I would also like to point out that any anti-abortion activist who is not a screaming hypocrite must support free availability of contraceptive devices and a welfare system that would provide support for unwed mothers and their children. Do you? Steve