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To: HG who wrote (28362)	1/17/1999 12:10:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I choose to let everyone make their own choice. I would never have an abortion but I would not force ANY woman to carry a child who did not want one. Having had children - unlike the MEN who offer their opinions- I think I have some notion of what pregnancy entails. I wonder how the pro-lifers would feel if there was a movement afoot to force women who wanted to keep babies to have abortions? Pretty much the same thing as forcing women who don't want them to carry them, imo- no one should have the right to force anyone to have or not to have a child. It should be a personal decision.

To: HG who wrote (28362)	1/17/1999 2:14:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Happy Girl: You are deadly, deadly wrong: Its not as simple as "It's my right to my body". Yes it is, if we are to have a society where individual rights are supreme to the State. Social issues and laws apply. Social issues have no bearing on individual rights. Laws are valid only if they serve to protect those rights. Somehow, I believe there cannot be any black and white answers to this issue. At best, there can be a compromise on either sides, and which ever side that is. "Somehow"? Just somehow, you believe? That is not good enough. Not even good enough to support an opinion. It is a belief that just materialized out of some fog? From some other where? And at best there is NO compromise on rights, there cannot be, lest they are not rights. That a woman has a right to her own life and own body can only be debated in a Statist society, not one that subscribes to individual freedom and liberty. Whether you have a state control, or whether you have total freedom of choice, there emerge no clear winners. Of course there are clear winners. In scenario one the individual is free. In scenario two, the individual is at the mercy of the State and is potentially one step away from becoming a vassal or a slave. FT