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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/19/1999 10:03:00 PM
From: Ronald J. Clark  Respond to of 95453
 
The polls tell Slick that the public loves low energy prices and hates the oil industry. What do you think Clinton will do in choosing between the long term national interest and short term enjoyment of low energy prices?



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/19/1999 10:22:00 PM
From: marc chatman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
I haven't been reading all the posts on Iraqi oil production. Will the new policy result in a real increase in Iraqi production, or will it simply move into normal distribution channels much of the Iraqi production now being moved through the black market?

If the latter, isn't it more likely to force OPEC (i.e., Saudi Arabia -- which took over the Iraqi quota) to recognize the "real" Iraqi production number and deal with it?

*OT* While I am sympathetic to the plight of those in the US suffering from low oil prices and to a lesser extent the national security argument, I believe that Government intervention to prop up inefficient industries (be it through subsidies, price controls, or whatever), inevitably fails.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/19/1999 10:51:00 PM
From: upanddown  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Slider, the speech is finally over and Bubba didn't say a word about "lets get them oil prices up". If he had, it would have been greeted with total silence. The great majority of DC pols come from states without significant energy industries and they don't have to poll their constituents to know what they want...low gas prices, low heating oil prices, low NG prices. They hate Big Oil and they hate OPEC. The only possible help might be Strategic Reserve purchases but that is a band-aid and not a solution to what is really a global and not strictly a domestic problem.

The attitude is that the oil bidness got itself into this fix and the oil bidness will have to find its own way out. I tend to agree. Its not the business of the government to bail out uncompetitive businesses.

John




To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/19/1999 11:52:00 PM
From: Douglas V. Fant  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 95453
 
Slider, Let me tell you a little secret- both Oklahoma and Texas voted Republican in 1992 and again in 1996 Presidential Elections. Also Al Gore's most serious challenger in Year 2000 is the current Governor of Texas, George Bush, Jr.

So the last thing that that the Clinton Administration wants to do right now is to help either Oklahoma or Texas...heh, heh. The Okies and the Tejanos have "zero stroke" in this Administration... This Administration "takes names" and punishes political enemies. Look at Utah. Mssrs. Clinton and Gore delivered a tremendous "screw you" to Utah just before the 1996 Presidential Election and withdrew the entire southern 1/3d of Utah from land use under federal land laws.

Bottom line- Pres Clinton never received a majority vote of the US electorate in either the 1992 or 1996 elections. It has undermined the effectiveness of this Presidency from Day One....

However we got a tremendous laugh over the withdrawal because neither of them had the courage to do their dirty politics right in Utah- but announced the withdrawal from here in Arizona from the Grand Canyon,ha!

But one thing about the speech struck me as weird. The feds will sue the tobacco industry right? Is it not strange that the feds are also subsidizing tobacco farmers in the Carolinas to grow more tobacco???? Truly weird.....I now have a feel for how it must have been to live under Emperor Nero's reign....



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/20/1999 3:48:00 AM
From: dfloydr  Respond to of 95453
 
Hmmm ... maybe Clinton is saving our oil for when we need it in the 21st century ;-)



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/20/1999 8:38:00 AM
From: SargeK  Respond to of 95453
 
Slider,

We have evolved into a nation of "SPIN"; political spin, economic spin, domestic and foreign affairs spin,etc....CLINTON is the MASTER of SPIN. He gets away with it because too few people VOTE, study the issues, or look beyond their own personal well being.
A PATRIOT is looked upon as naive, a specie too be studied not admired.

The energy sector will reassert itself because it always has and because it is vital to our national interests. Whatever is in the long term national interest of the U.S. generally occurs because there are dedicated professionals behind the scenes to assure that it does.

K



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (35408)1/20/1999 8:50:00 AM
From: SargeK  Respond to of 95453
 
Slider,

I forgot to add. A SPIN DOCTOR is a PROFESSIONAL LIAR. He tells just enough of the truth so that half-truths, lies, dis-information, misinformation and other distortions of the truth will be believed.

K