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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (30910)1/29/1999 6:15:00 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

No flies on you, Johannes! :-)



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (30910)1/31/1999 3:35:00 AM
From: Borzou Daragahi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Hurray! The old Johannes is back in the house.

Care to grace us with your enlightening commentary on this piece of news?

January 30, 1999

Church Group Allows Same-Sex Unions

By The Associated Press

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) -- A Presbyterian church group that represents 20,000 faithful in seven New York counties voted Saturday to allow ministers to perform same-sex holy unions that stop short of marriage.

''I think that God's tears are a lot less every time we affirm monogamy over promiscuity,'' said the Rev. Steve Geckeler, minister of the Presbyterian Church in White Plains. His church hosted the Presbytery of the Hudson River, comprised of ministers and lay members from 96 churches who approved the motion by a vote of 107 to 35.

However, ''a marriage is still understood as being between a man and a woman,'' said Geckeler, who has not himself performed any same-gender unions.

The Presbytery voted three months after a Presbytery committee began investigating the South Presbyterian Church in nearby Dobbs Ferry, which openly holds same-sex unions. The committee found the unions are allowed, but don't constitute marriage.

The national office of the Presbyterian Church (USA) will likely consider whether the vote conforms to church law, said Fred Jenkins, associate stated clerk of the Protestant denomination's General Assembly in Louisville, Ky.

The 2.7 million-member denomination's Book of Order does not mention same-sex unions specifically, but church officials have recommended that ministers do not perform ceremonies that are the ''same as a marriage ceremony.''



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (30910)1/31/1999 6:33:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Hey, I missed that one. Good to see your head still stuck in the pus pot, Rev. Pilch.



To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (30910)1/31/1999 8:17:00 AM
From: Bob Lao-Tse  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
My dear sir,

It is an honor to finally see some of your work. You see, your reputation has preceded you, perhaps ironically in the form of Daniel's whining.

I have tried to engage Schuh in debate a couple of times now, but to no avail. In my exchanges with him, I have come to recognize the standard Daniel plaint, that is: "It's not my fault that I am totally incapable of and uninterested in carrying on a rational exchange, and must instead simply insult, ridicule and vilify those who disagree with me. It's everybody else's fault because they're all so mean to me. Just take a look at this post in which _____ calls me a very bad name. And how about this one where _____ is very mean to me. And look at this one! _____ said some very nasty things in this one. I can't help it, I'm pure as the driven snow, but ______ just keeps on picking on me."

As that ______ was most often filled with your name, I started to watch for your posts. I assumed that anyone who had made such an impression on Schuh had to have something significant to say.

I look forward to more,

-BLT