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To: Ilaine who wrote (29504)1/30/1999 10:50:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
CobaltBlue,
It could have been because you were Gentiles. They still think of themselves as God's chosen people. The christian's believe that the sacrifice of Jesus which created a new covenant replaced the old covenant of judaism. This new covenant was offered to the Jews first and many accepted, many also rejected Him. Then the gospel went to the gentiles also. The difference between the old and new is this. The old covenant consisted of laws and ordinances that were practiced outwardly "in the flesh". The new covenant is a spiritual covenant inside us. Jesus made it possible for us to partake of the Holy Spirit in us as a sign of the redemption of our soul. This is a distinction that separates the old and new. The old could not save anyone and was referred to by Paul as being a weak covenant. The new can save. The mantle of "God's chosen people" went from the Jews to all those who have partaken of the Holy Spirit and accepted Jesus as the new covenant. This is not a rejection of Jews by christians, it's an expansion by God from working with one small nation to encompassing all mankind as was His purpose.

God states this purpose in Isaiah 49:6

He says, "It is too small a thing that You (Jesus) should be My Servant, To raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make you a light of the nations, So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth."

So God has made all those who believe both jews and gentiles His chosen people. The mantle was passed. But the old jews who reject Jesus cling to the old and still think of themselves as the chosen people. And they can act like it too. <gg>

Bob



To: Ilaine who wrote (29504)2/2/1999 2:06:00 AM
From: nihil  Respond to of 108807
 
Ah, the exclusive ultra-orthodox Jew. I know them well, you know how they stick together. I remember when I tried to enter the diamond trade and all the black-hatted Hasidim refused to deal with me as if one had to have two thousand years of shared oppression before one could trade in tiny chunks of cubic crystalized carbon. And then when I tried to become a rabbi -- they wouldn't even consider that a Reform Jewish Rabbi could be a Jew at all. They rejected me as they rejected Jesus, didn't kill me, though they called me blasphmer. They wouldn't eat at my restaurant, or let my wife bathe in their mikva, or circumcise my son, or let my sons study in their yeshiva. They said I was not a Jew, even though the blood of priests flowed in my veins more certainly than theirs. Where did they get their Slavic blood groups? Where did they get their swarthy skin?

Here's testimony by a cousin of Jesus who is not a Jew but probably a some kind of Ku Klux aryan:

Is not it clear that Jesus a Jew had blue eyes as declared by scripture and that with his royal birth that somewhere in that royal line there were blue-eyed ancestors in plenty. Who dare say that David was a Semite, or that Bathsheba raped mother of Jesus's royal line was a Jew? Who can deny that Jesus was a Jew and also Aryan through and through. Those bright genes collected from some Persian avatar perhaps or who knows where?

--The Famous Declaration of a Cousin of Jesus (passim).



To: Ilaine who wrote (29504)2/2/1999 2:10:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Ah, the exclusive ultra-orthodox Jew. I know them well, you know how they stick together. I remember when I tried to enter the diamond trade and all the black-hatted Hasidim refused to deal with me as if one had to have two thousand years of shared oppression before one could trade in tiny chunks of cubic chrystalized carbon. And then when I tried to become a rabbi -- they wouldn't even consider that a Reform Jewish Rabbi could be a Jew at all. They rejected me as they rejected Jesus, didn't kill me, though they called me blasphmer. They wouldn't eat at my restaurant, or let my wife bathe in their mikva, or circumcise my son, or let my sons study in their yeshiva. They said I was not a Jew, even though the blood of priests flowed in my veins more certainly than theirs. Where did they get their Slavic blood groups? Where did they get their swarthy skin?

Here's testimony by a cousin of Jesus who is not a Jew but probably a some kind of Ku Klux aryan:

Is not it clear that Jesus a Jew had blue eyes as declared by scripture and that with his royal birth that somewhere in that royal line there were blue-eyed ancestors in plenty. Who dare say that David was a Semite, or that Bathsheba raped mother of Jesus's royal line was a Jew? Who can deny that Jesus was a Jew and also Aryan through and through. Those bright genes collected from some Persian avatar perhaps or who knows where?

--The Famous Declaration of a Cousin of Jesus (passim).