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To: Edwarda who wrote (29647)1/31/1999 2:40:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
I am not familiar with the list of rights promulgated by the United Nations. I believe that the list includes such things as the "right" to full employment, the "right" to education, and the "right" to full redress in the courts. I don't perceive how any of these are rights.

I have the "right" to be left alone, unless I interfere with your rights. That includes the "right" to have my property left alone, too.

I have thought about this a lot, lately, because I have come down with rheumatoid arthritis, which was for a few weeks uncontrolled, and terrifying. I was unable to dress myself, feed myself or stand up to go to the bathroom without terrible pain, and needed assistance. I could not drive, for example, so if I wanted to eat, someone had to go to the store for me, and cook for me. I felt bad about being dependent on my husband, because we had been talking about separating, and I felt, and still feel, that his assistance was grudging. I am taking a lot of drugs that control the disease, but I still think about what it means to be disabled. I don't see how I have the "right" to force someone to take care of me. If I can pay someone, or persuade someone, to take care of me, well and good. But, if not, I don't think I should be able to force others to take care of me.



To: Edwarda who wrote (29647)1/31/1999 3:15:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
Edwarda,
The rights given by the United Nations are phantom rights and can be changed at any time to suit the whim of the New World Order.

Bob



To: Edwarda who wrote (29647)1/31/1999 5:45:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I don't know how I feel about that. I personally want the right to be free of bodily harm, the right to my possessions, the right to do what I want so long as I don't injure anyone else- but I don't really have those rights. Someone can come kill me any time they want- and my family will only have the "right" to seek legal redress- nothing will bring me back. So I think rights and duties, while necessary in a society, are merely traffic lights on the social roadway. They have no independent existence, they are not (imo) absolute unless everyone everywhere agrees they are absolute- otherwise absoluteness is just an arbitrary descriptive phrase.

There is a little poem about that-

Here lies the grave of John O'Day
Who died maintaining his right of way
His cause was right, his will was strong
but he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.