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To: Neocon who wrote (31385)2/1/1999 2:57:00 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 67261
 
This is fun, and I think it will help to eliminate some misunderstandings, so I will now address the topic of abortion:
1.) The absolute right of a woman to terminate her pregnancy at any point does violence to the whole concept of paternity. Since it is her decision to carry the baby, it is her baby. The law has not caught up with the logical implications yet, but it will;
2.) Therefore, abortion weakens the connections between fathers and their progeny, and weakens the male concern with the consequences of sex, making men even more inclined to predatory behavior and abandonment;
3.) Furthermore, a liberal abortion regime invites abuse, since it denies that there is any hurdle that must be passed to obtain an abortion. Thus, it has been documented that many women use abortion as a means of sex selection--- ironically, primarily to abort females. It also creates the moral hazard of laxity with birth control, which has also been documented;
4.) Additionally, a liberal abortion regime makes it likely that genetic defects, such as Down's syndrome, will become less acceptable, since those who give birth to such people will be viewed as irresponsible for not having had an abortion;
5.) Abortion necessarily damages the sense of the sacredness of maternity, because unborn children are at any moment disposable should the woman choose to do so. That may not matter when the woman is fully committed to the birth, but what about those who are ambivalent, and may decide that they should have aborted after the child is born? Has abortion impacted on the rise of child abuse and abandonment?;
6.) The existence of late term, and especially partial birth, abortion obliterates any distinction between the unborn child and the neonate, except condition of dependency, and legitimizes infanticide, such as the couple of incidents where middle class girls gave birth at proms and dumped the babies;
7.) The widespread prevalence of abortion threatens to rend the social fabric, given the depth of feeling on both sides, and should not depend on a flawed Supreme Court decision;
8.) Therefore Roe v Wade should be overturned, and the matter should go back to the states, where conservatives should work to enact as many restrictions on abortion as are politically feasible, and ban it if possible, except in instances of rape, incest, or serious health risk.



To: Neocon who wrote (31385)2/1/1999 1:47:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
3.) Therefore, government should regulate minimally, merely establishing "rules of the road" and helping with infra- structure, and should limit the use of taxes, tariffs, trade missions, and the like to favor certain outcomes, since they distort the price structure, which is the best means of determining the efficient allocation of resources. My next tutorial will address the principle of subsidiarity.

Really??

Well that was exactly my point when I referred you to the document "can government save the family" - which you questioned as to what was the point (reply #31277). The point is that the reblicans are embracing using the tax code and other legislation to promote their social agenda which is exactly what they chastise the dems for doing. As an example check out their comcept of a "family wage" in the following piece - this is essentially where they propose paying someone more than the mkt feels they are worth since they are a sole breadwinner for a "family". Also other rhetoric about how the tax code should encourage families blah blah blah in there.

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