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To: ScotMcI who wrote (20988)2/3/1999 11:21:00 AM
From: ScotMcI  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25960
 
Sorry about the out-of-sequence posting. SI had a problem with part 2 for some reason and didn't take it initially.



To: ScotMcI who wrote (20988)2/3/1999 12:53:00 PM
From: Investor2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25960
 
Sorry if this has already been posted, but it seems to be relevant to our recent discussion on CYMI's monopoly.

"SVGL will be using a 157-nm laser from Lambda Physik, the same vendor that supplies the laser for its new 193-nm deep-UV tool."

semibiznews.com

Best wishes,

I2



To: ScotMcI who wrote (20988)4/28/1999 11:12:00 PM
From: ScotMcI  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25960
 
Regarding the Q1 1999 conference call:

A question for you folks. Does anyone care if I put in Angus's financial stuff in the transcript? It seems to be just a verbal version of the numbers that are in the quarterly report. I'm happy to do it if anyone actually finds it useful for some reason (and having a complete record would be a valid one), but it would be a timesaver to leave it out if no one cares. If even one person wants it, I'll put it in, so speak up.

I've got the opening talk by Akins done, but I don't want to post stuff here until I've got the whole CC. For those of you who want to read what I've got so far, I've put it on a web page. Go to cymerian.com. (That domain name alone should attest to my dedication to this stock).



To: ScotMcI who wrote (20988)5/2/1999 12:06:00 PM
From: ScotMcI  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25960
 
Cymer Q1 1999 Conference Call, Part 1 of 2

Maria Burke, Director of Investor Relations: [Standard disclaimer stuff given]

Bob Akins, President: Hello. I'd like to extend a warm welcome to everyone to this, our first quarterly conference call of 1999. Before beginning to discuss events of the first quarter of this year, I'll spend a few minutes to share with you some observations concerning the dynamics of the lithography business in 1998, and help put this new year in proper perspective.

The semiconductor business was impacted over the past two years by what we now understand to have been the most severe downturn in the history of the industry. As a result, 1998 was a very difficult year for us here at Cymer, although in fairness to others in the semiconductor business, not as difficult as experienced by many of our peers. This is due primarily to the intrinsic nature of our business being driven by a virtually unstoppable transition to the new generation of DUV lithography. While capital spending slowed in 1998, chipmakers nonetheless continued to demand delivery of advanced DUV tools, albeit at a lower volume than previously expected. This lithographic transition, driven by the accelerating drive by chipmakers to smaller and smaller critical dimensions has resulted in many semiconductor manufacturers actually pushing ahead of Moore's law. And interestingly, the explanation is tied largely to the industry slowdown. While moving down Moore's law has always been a path to reducing costs - principally by yielding more dice per wafer, it has traditionally been viewed primarily as a capability enabler for the earliest fabrication of more advanced chip prototypes. However, the principal driver is now the compelling economic advantages enabled by aggressive geometry shrinks. Advanced DUV processing not only achieves the patterning of more chips per wafer, but also results in higher die yield per wafer. Furthermore, fabs worldwide have found that with increased investment in advanced DUV tools, they can successfully leverage most of their existing factory toolsets to achieve production: First, with minimum tooling within the 0.25 to 0.20 micron generation, and now, with selective retooling, of the 0.18 to 0.15 micron generation. The result has been the adoption by chipmakers of an investment strategy to incorporate progressively more expensive but more capable advanced lithography tools. Said differently, investing in advanced lithography has now become the most viable way for fabs to do business.

Entering 1999, with over 600 Cymer KrFl lasers on DUV steppers and scanners in production use at fabs worldwide, 248 nm lithography is now indeed a production mainstay. Based in no small part on the success of Cymer and our customers in helping to achieve this, leading-edge chip manufacturers have recently embarked on an economically-driven race to further accelerate the reduction of critical feature size, as evidenced by the dramatic pull-ins of the SIA lithography roadmap in the past few months. This has also given rise to increased focus on even shorter-wavelength patterning tools and related light source technologies, including 193 nm, 157 nm, and of course the so-called next generation lithography, or NGL, technologies, which include 13.5 nm EUV. Over the past several years, we have experienced an extremely high market share, but based on our business plans we do not expect to maintain that level of market share going forward. The critical nature of DUV light source supply to the future of semiconductor manufacturing, is well understood by the industry. As a result, there is a requirement by chipmakers for a second source. No actions that Cymer can take will eliminate that requirement. Second-source requirements by the industry are commonly seen in all areas of critical equipment or material supply. Actions that are at least partially under our control can heavily influence the overall split of business between the first and second sources. These actions fall into three major categories. First, technology leadership requires, as you all know very significant and ongoing investments in advanced next-generation techniques, which at Cymer uniquely spans a four-wavelength spectrum, from 248 nm to 13.5 nm. The SIA roadmap acceleration I have just described serves to illustrate why this must be so. Of course, technology leadership also means leading the industry in productivity, uptime, and cost of ownership. Second, investment in volume production capability of these advanced tools is necessary to meet not only the industry's capacity requirements, but also the machine-to-machine consistency expectations of the industry. This encompasses the development of key-supplier capabilities as well as process control and measurement technologies. Third, supporting the tools once they are in production at chipmakers requires an extensively-deployed network of trained field-service engineers, technical support engineers, training specialists, and of course spare-parts logistics. Funding all this takes money, but the result is the ability to meet customer requirements with technology-based, value-added, whole-product solutions that provides with a majority of chipmakers the most compelling business solution. This is the business we want to be in. Our competitors, who have in the past competed with Cymer on parameters of performance, reliability, and productivity, are currently resorting to lowering their prices. And for some portion of the lithography tool manufacturing business, the cheapest laser may be the most attractive choice. Frankly speaking, we don't compete on price, we compete on value. In fact, over the course of the downturn last year, and faced with competition, we brought new product to market of substantially higher demonstratable [sic] value, especially in terms of improved resolution, higher throughput, and lower cost of operation. And then priced products in such a manner as to share that increased value with our customers, resulting in higher ASPs [average sales price] for Cymer. While we are certainly not immune to pricing pressure, especially in volume purchasing situations, we have found that our knowledgeable customers are accepting a price formula that will yield Cymer the appropriate margins for our necessary ongoing investment n R&D, manufacturing, and service, which supports their future product and manufacturing roadmaps. The portion of the market that we desire long-term is that value-driven and more profitable business.

I would now like to shift gears and talk about activity in the first quarter, beginning with our order situation and new-product acceptance, and then moving on to those three competitive fronts of technology leadership, production, and worldwide support and field activity. In the area of orders, with two sequential quarters of increased bookings under our belt, we are optimistic that a recovery is underway, as evidenced by our backlog increasing to fifty million dollars this quarter, as compared to thirty-seven million dollars for the fourth quarter of 1998, and we expect to see our revenue growth rate accelerate more strongly in the second half of this year. To put our system orders in perspective, by our estimate, they represent over ninety percent of the total available market for light sources in DUV lithography during the first quarter. The orders are being driven primarily by the growning demand for our ELS-5010 KrFl laser, which accounted for over sixty-five percent of total units shipped in the quarter. The 5010 is rapidly becoming the laser of choice for enabling DUV steppers to achieve higher resolutions, and first-generation scanners to achieve more accurate dosage control. During the quarter, we also continued to ship our new ELS-6000, a two-kilohertz twenty-watt laser, for beta-testing and integration at our customer's sites. The 6000, as you may recall, offers compelling higher performance and productivity with our lowest cost-of-operation to date. We expect orders for production systems beginning in the second half of 1999, ramping to higher volumes in the year 2000. We further plan to introduce the two-kilohertz ArFl version of this platform, the ELS-6000A, in the fourth quarter of this year. As we discussed in our Q4 of 1998 conference call, we will continue to invest over the course of this year and expanded regional sales, marketing, and service infrastructure, designed to support our efforts not only at our direct customers, but also to properly position Cymer with respect to our end-user customers. In the area of technology leadership, the best way to update our technology development is to review briefly the results of the SPIE International Symposium on Microlithography held in Santa Clara in March of this year. This has long since been recognized as the premier conference on advanced lithography worldwide. We presented six papers on advanced light source technology, spanning 248 nm, 193 nm, 157 nm, and 13.5 nm, and as I said earlier, have now positioned ourselves as the only light source supplier with demonstrated technological leadership in four separate wavelength generations. Highlights of our presentations include the following: In KrFl, detailed performance characteristics of our ELS-6000 two-kilohertz twenty-watt laser were presented, including the applicability of a higher-power and a higher repetition rate to achieve increased throughput. For example, when exposing contact-hole layers, a less-sensitive resist can be exposed in half the time than that needed with a one-kilohertz ten-watt laser. The higher pulse rate also improves energy dose stability, and therefore enhanced CD control. In addition, life tests at two-kilohertz showed the system's core module lifetimes far exceed present-day one-kilohertz lifetime. In addition, a new portable bandwidth measuring device was described that will allow high accuracy determination of spectral bandwidth of lasers in the field as part of normal maintenance. This technique allowed very-narrow-bandwidth lasers to operate consistently within the narrow limits of performance necessary for extremely high-NA [numerical aperture], high-resolution lenses. In the area of ArFl, a new optical cavity design that provides an ultra-narrow bandwidth for use with ArFl projection lenses that can greatly reduce the amount of calcium fluoride necessary for projection lenses was presented. This has a positive effect on potentially reducing the cost of ownership of the entire lithography tool. We are currently engineering a two-kilohertz ArFl laser, and expect to deliver a multiple-beta unit by the end of this year. In addition, we have demonstrated the feasibility of producing a three-kilohertz ArFl as well. In the area of F2, Cymer F2 laser performance was demonstrated at pulse rates of two kilohertz, and power levels of twenty watts. The energy stability and gas lifetime was comparable to ArFl, strongly supporting the viability of F2 as a potential lithography light source. Our F2 laser development work leverages strongly our excimer laser technology used in our KrFl and ArFl lasers. In EUV, Cymer's first public release of the results of our in-house EUV light source program also occurred at the same SPIE conference. As you know, Sematech has narrowed the choices for next-generation lithography to either Scalpel or EUV. Unlike other approaches that use complex high-power laser-based technologies, or [something that sounds like 'actually pinched'] Xenon plasma, our design converts stored electrical energy directly to narrow-band EUV radiation by compressing and heating a small volume of lithium plasma, and we're very encouraged by the initial results. The dense plasma focus, or DPF, device produces narrow-band radiation at 13.5 nm, has very high brightness, and is capable of high-repetition-rate operation, and leverages our existing SSPM, or solid-state pulse-power module technology. Cymer was granted a patent on this device last year and has filed several more claims since then. In fact, along with our increased level of R&D investment comes a growing investment in our overall intellectual property position. We currently have a patent portfolio of over fifty patents issued worldwide, with another two hundred patents pending. In the area of manufacturing, we have at Cymer, together with our manufacturing partner in Japan, Seiko Instruments, a demonstrated manufacturing capability of producing more than enough lasers to meet expected near-term demands of the industry. This includes the capacity to produce the necessary spare parts for maintenance of our growing installed base of lasers. To make the best use of our abilities during the slowdown of 1998, we turned our manufacturing focus to making improvements on the first-pass yield of our production and test processes, with special emphasis on yields of our core technology modules. As a result, those yields have increased significantly over the course of last year, and we expect to see that trend continue. For example, in the critical area of discharge chambers, we are now operating at the ninety percent plus level, and plan soon to be at the ninety-five perecnt level. Additionally, we have demonstrated an ability to produce and test a variety of laser models, at the same time and in the same factory. For example, we currently manufacture 5000s, 5000As which is the ArFl version, 5010s, the 5005 upgrade kit, and 6000-series lasers concurrently, and apply the learned improvements from one model to the next. Lastly, in the area of service and support, at the end of Q1 in the field we had 639 lasers in production at chipmakers worldwide. Machine-dependent uptime across a statistically-accurate number of our fielded units is now in excess of ninety-nine percent.

I will now turn the discussion to Bill for the detailed financial review.

Bill Angus:
[Angus' comments are essentially a verbal form of the financial statement, so I've omitted them]

Akins: I would like to summarize a few of the more salient points made today. We are implementing a value-added strategy, which at any point in time leverages our investments made previously in critical areas of technology, manufacturing, and field support. To illustrate this, consider our 5000-series value-based evolution. Following the heavy investment in 1997 to improve performance and reduce cost of operation, we introduced the model 5010 early in 1998. The 5010 lays the foundation for our average sales price increasing from $397,000 in January of 98 to $474,000 in January of 99. Now that model comprises over sixty-five percent of our total lasers shipped. 5010s are the primary driver for our systems orders increasing to over $50,000,000, and Cymer's book-to-bill ration growing to 1.33 for the first quarter of 1999. Remember that, by our estimate, our systems orders represent over ninety percent of the total available market for light sources in DUV lithography for the first quarter. Taking some of those same 5010 improvements to the field to substantially reduce cost of operations of the installed base is the value basis of our 5005 upgrade program, which has passed the qualification phase and started implementation at chipmakers in the second quarter. Next, Cymer's investment in 1998 in our two-kilohertz platform, the 6000 series, will begin to see significantly growing KrFl purchase activity later this year or early in the year 2000, with an expected volume sales price of the base configuration over $500,000. And we are investing today in the higher-resolution ArFl version of the 6000, higher pulse repetition rates and average power lasers for improved productivity, as well as an F2 and EUV for the future of lithography. This is coupled with the ongoing process of bringing to the industry improved manufacturing capabilities and a growing worldwide field support infrastructure. In conclusion, our strategy is to meet customer requirements with a technology-based, value-added whole-product solutions which provide for the majority of chipmakers the most compelling business solution. Before turing this to a Q&A session, I would like to add the following postscript. We have taken steps recently to enhance our board of directors. As you know, Mr. Jerry Tailor, the former CFO of Applied Materials, joined our board in September of last year. In addition, in our proxy statement mailed last week, you will see that Mr. John Tompkin, Chairman of the Board of KLA Tencor, has been nominated to serve on Cymer's board pending his election on May 20. Both of these gentlemen bring substantial depth of experience from successful semiconductor capital equipment companies and are assets to our organization.



To: ScotMcI who wrote (20988)5/2/1999 12:06:00 PM
From: ScotMcI  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 25960
 
Cymer Q1 1999 Conference Call, Part 2 of 2, Q&A

Q&A session

Steve on behalf of Jay Deanha, Dean Witter: I'm wondering if you could spend a little time discussing the competitive landscape a little bit more. There seems to be a lot of concern about that. You mentioned a little bit maybe there's some issues relative to pricing pressures of competition. Have you lost business based on price, and maybe you can just give us an update on the whole competitive landscape breaking down Komatsu versus Lambda.

Akins: Let me start off with that one, Steve. I think that it's important to note the fact that we've had competitive, we've had competition here at Cymer now for many years. There's nothing new in that respect. We certainly are seeing increased activity by the competition. As I mentioned in the conference call, that activity is moving from issues of performance and productivity and the like now to also include price pressures. And I think that one could say that we're on the verge of the competition creating a price war with these particular products. And that definitely has an impact, it has an impact on some of our customers or that portion of the customers where indeed as we said earlier, the cheapest laser is the most attractive choice for them. Now, with that, I think I might turn this over to Pascal Didier, our Senior Vice President of Worldwide Customer Operations for perhaps a little bit more insight.

Didier: Your have to note also that DUV is moving now to what you would call second- and third-tier accounts in the semiconductor industry, where capital cost above and beyond anything else is the primary concerns when they go on capital equipment spending. For that reason, our competition may have access to a certain part of this kind of business. And that's what I think we've seen over the last couple of months developing is that kind of third-tier account of the semiconductor industry start investing into the quarter-micron technology. And their primary concern today is capital cost. Because as you are well-aware, the semiconductor industry's only on the beginning of the recovery process here. And our value-added base solutions may not be as attractive today for them that they may be in the future in six to nine months from now.

Steve: Can you get a little bit more specific relative to Komatsu vercus Lambda Physic. I'm especially concerned with in Japan in Komatsu's inroads through Nikon and Canon.

Didier: In Japan right now, it really illustrates my point as you have a corporation like Sony Corporation really focusing on developing quarter-micron technologies for consumer product. The Komatsu solution which is the cheapest light source than the Cymer light source today is more attractive to them. And in that case, what they end up doing is splitting the business between a more advanced value-based solution and a much cheaper cost too. And their ration today of steppers and scanners is in favor of the stepper, not the scanners, where you look at companies like NEC, for example, many DRAM suppliers in Japan as well as in Korea and advanced foundry in Taiwan, they are pushing for their scanner development, which in favor of our technology.

Steve: And my last question just relative to the inventory in the channel, I think you've been concerned about that in the past. We've talked about possibly 250-300 lasers out there. Do you have an estimate for that now?

Angus: Yeah. It went up I think maybe about ten percent this quarter, Steve. But when we looked at an analysis of where it was growing the most, it was growing the most in customers where inventory has not per se been a problem. And in fact, we're viewing that as a positioning for them expanding their business.

Robert Mayer, DLJ: A couple of questions. Nikon had a substantial amount of inventory in the last call, and there was some question as to upgrading those tools that were out in the field. Could you tell us where you are with that and what issues have been raised and where we are in that?

Angus: Nikon has not requested us to upgrade any of their lasers that are in inventory, Robert. And in fact, I believe that their actual inventory of our lasers went down slightly during the quarter.

Mayer: OK. So basically they're using lasers as-is?

Angus: Yes.

Mayer: Uh-huh. And about … can you give us any idea as to what percent of the lasers that are out in the field are at Nikon?

Angus: Uh ….

Mayer: Or I should say at Nikon or as the old style.

Angus: I have to be a little careful here because we are basic … I think the majority of the lasers now, if I remember my numbers correctly, are moving over to the 5010s. Because we actually … the 5010s haven't per se, they're just now starting to get into the chipmakers. And most of the vast majority of the installs through this point in time have been all 5000s. So the 5010 inventory has in fact been building at the integrators and the 5000 inventory has been bleeding off.

Akins: Furthermore, Robert, as I mentioned as part of the prepared comments, the 5005 as an upgrade kit, and its efficacy have been qualified by our direct customers. Expect to see us actually installing some of those 5005 kits at chipmakers in the second quarter, and it becoming more of a material issue from a revenue standpoint in the third quarter of this year.

Mayer: Realizing you don't have perfect visibility because you're selling to stepper manufacturers, what would your best guess be in terms of the end users that were buying steppers in the first quarter, by geography or by product type, DRAM versus processor versus U.S. versus Asia. Can you give us any sense of any changes there?

Angus: Yeah. In the first quarter, for us, the installs were almost evenly divided between the U.S. and Japan, with a few more elsewhere. I know that wasn't what you were expecting to hear, was it?

Mayer: Can you give us an idea why?

Angus: I think maybe it's the Japanese starting to get back in the game here a little bit, the Japanese chipmakers. Pascal, maybe you have an insight about that you could share?

Didier: The other thing you have to remember is also timing between bookings and installations. And recently, over the last ninety days, we've heard a lot about bookings picking up in Taiwan and Korea. And you're going to start seeing those installation toward the second half of the year, where what is installed today in the United States and Japan have been driving bookings in Q4 of 1998. So you always have the lag of about six to nine months between the bookings trend going from Asia to the United States, or the United States to Japan and the actual installations of lasers in the field.

Mayer: What would you say the current lag or lead time is from your shipping a laser to its being installed at a customer site?

Angus: Well that depends on the integrator. Some of them are still at six months. Others are down to sixty to ninety days.

Nikolai Tishenko (ph), AB and Amerault: Three short questions. First, the sales and market expenses that they were [sounds like SHAYpud] from the first quarter to the second, there will be increase in sales expenses? Is that correct?

Angus: That is correct.

[Silence]

Angus: Nick? Hello?
Akins: Did we lose him?

Mark Fitzgerald, Merrill Lynch: I just wanted to follow up. With bookings up so strong in the quarter, can you give us some sense when that's going to be shippable and booked as revenues?

Angus: We are already getting orders for the third quarter. And so we see things definitely starting to strengthen in the second half of the year.

Fitzgerald: Is it possible by the September quarter we'll be in, above fifty milion in terms of shipments? Is that what we can take from a backlog in bookings quarter here that's as strong as it is?

Angus: That is a possibility, Mark.

Fitzgerald: Ok. And I'm just curious on the decline in units here. Is spares and service going to just as a significant percentage next quarter?

Angus: Yeah, it will. But the five to ten percent reduction isn't that many units. And remember we're going to be booking and realizing revenue from the first of our upgrade kits for the 5005 upgrade in the field during Q2.

Fitzgerald: The ASPs, are we looking at 100K on that upgrade?

Angus: When you add in the upgrade kit itself and the associated additional spares that will go with it, yeah it'll most likely be in excess of that.

Fitzgerald: Ok. And on the, uh you said your shipments this quarter, the 5010 was sixty-five percent of the shipments? Are we to assume that the ELS6000 makes up the balance of that?

Angus: No, no. We had a lot of 5000s still. Carry-overs from the past. If they were 6000s the ASPs would have been a lot higher.

Akins: Let me just reiterate that 6000 being a new platform and going on a next-generation lithography tool, is currently going through the beta and integration phase on those new tools, and that's a longer lead time. Don't expect the 6000 series to start comprising a more-significant portion of our quarterly revenues until sometime perhaps late this year or the first part of 2000.

Fitzgerald: Ok. And the 5000, is that only used in the step-and-repeat tools, it's not used in scanners, is that what I could assume from your comments?

Angus: Basically. Basically, yes.

Fitzgerald: Ok. So the 5000 you expect to fall off here pretty quickly considering, if you talk to ASM and some of these other scanning tool manufacturers, they expect this to become a significant portion of the shipments by the fourth quarter here.

Akins: Yes. Remember that in our last quarterly conference call we remarked that the faster-than-anticipated catching-on of the 5010 and its sales is going to be putting an end to the 5000 series earlier than anticipated.

Fitzgerald: So, from a pricing pressure, I mean, when you look at the competitors out there, on your suggensting you're better positioned for the scanning systems with the 5010 … does that mean that … maybe you're being a little bit too conservative here on some of your market share assumptions?

Akins: Remember that some of our customers have already publicly released that they expect their scanner business to comprise more than seventy percent of their total revenues for the current fiscal years. So certainly the transition to scanners is a robust one, and it definitely plays to the fact that you need a higher-performance, higher-value-added light source to make those scanner really perform properly. So, it certainly plays to our strength and to our strategy. But I think that we've tried to accurately capture our strategy and our expectations as possible in this conference call.

Fitzgerald: And just one final question here. In looking at this whole strategy of investing in global infrastructure here to differentiate yourself from your competitors as you go forward. Number one, how do you get paid for that, and number two, is there any way to measure if in fact people value that relative to the two other competitors who really don't have that infrastructure?

Didier: The way we are getting paid for it is off of the last two quarters we had a significant increase in our service contract revenues and are continuing to see some bright future there. From a return on investment for our customers, to give you a very simple example: About a year and a half ago, in order to sustain a fab at eighty percent production, people had to order spares from me with a fourteen to twenty-five week lead time. And had to build a significant inventory in their local fabs to sustain their production. Today, by putting a worldwide logistic infrastructure, I am able to ship spares in less than six weeks. Which means I am reducing their local inventory in significant ways. And that is one example of the value added [untelligible] that you put in front of our customers. And as you very well know, fab capacity is now … in fact utilization is increasing over the last two quarters. And allowing chipmakers to have a reduced inventory, which is a reduced capital cost spending, is a very attractive proposal for them so far.

Fitzgerald: And just one final question here. Is there any reason in looking at the Japanese market that they may not see the same transition to scanning technology with the same aggressive adoption to scanning technology as the rest of the world?

Didier: No, I don't think so. In order for the DRAMs Japanese suppliers to stay competitive as well as for the advanced ASIC Japanese suppliers to stay competitive in the marketplace, they will have to follow the same train on scanners versus steppers investment. They don't really have a choice there.

Bret Hodess, NationsBank Montgomery Securities: Question on technology, Bob. You commented on the EUV development, and you're going after EUV in a little bit different way than some of the folks that are just looking at using high-power lasers and whatnot. Can you comment a little bit about that technology, what you expect to gain from that and maybe what the risks might be in taking a little bit different path than some of the other folks?

Akins: Certainly. The techniques that have been most discussed to date include the idea of one or a bank of high-power lasers, all focusing their outputs down onto different types of targets, such as frozen Xenon targets, or gas-jet targets made of Xenon. And then to in a very inefficient way convert the laser light into broadband EUV radiation, which then must be filtered to select the required output. Or, taking what are more commonly called constrained-discharge, or Z-pinch technologies to dump very significant amounts of energy into the gas in a constrained discharge in Xenon, and again generate broadband emission that has been filtered selectively to get the required radiation. Also very inefficient in its use of electrical power. At Cymer, if there's one thing we've learned about manufacturing -worthy lithography light sources, it's that efficiency is a key to manufacturing ruggedness and reliability. We've taken our solid-state pulsed power module technology that we've matured in our lasers and applied it to this new concept of dense plasma focus, where we heat a gas, which is rich with lithium, and directly convert the stored electrical energy in our system into the narrow-band 13.5 nm radiation optimal for EUV. Our efficiencies are a couple of orders of magnitude higher than the other discharge techniques. And we believe that that increased efficiency, together with the high pulse repetition rate of that technology offers it a very promising future as a candidate for use in EUV.

Hodess: Any development risks that you look at that, relative to when you think folks will be ready to start taking development units?

Akins: Absolutely yes. We have to stress the fact that this technology is certainly in its infancy in development. We have been very open with that. However, given the level of immaturity of the technology to date, we are certainly encouraged by the performance that we've achieved to date. Yes, the technology has received very high levels of interest in the industry. We got more attention than we had anticipated getting at that SPIE conference. And we're currently trying to deal with how we manage that level of attention here at Cymer, and how we would go forward. Properly developed, this certainly could have an impact on the direction that next generation of lithography could move in the ongoing competition between Scalpel and EUV. I want to emphasis again that part of our ace up our sleeve, if you will, in the manufacturing worthiness of our technology, we believe, is the fact that it leverages off our existing strengths in solid-state pulse-power technology, without which this kind of technique would not be a production reality, could not be a production reality.

Hodess: And one final question. Just to go back to your answer relative to the price pressures, you're specifically saying that where you're seeing the price pressures, where the customers are selling the lower-end steppers, basically, steppers that might be used still at .25 or whatnot, but not the more advanced .18 micron and below systems. Is that correct?

Dedier: That is correct, Bret. That is where we see most of the price pressure happening at this point in time.

Leonard Sanders, Needham and Company: Could you go over a little bit more of your service business and talk about why service was down and the effect of that on gross margins. I thought service business was actually lower margin.

Angus: Ok, Lenny, uh … uh boy. I'm going to have to think about that, Len, and talk to you after this conference call.

Sanders: Ok, let me ask a different question then. On employees, could you go over number of employees and what your targets are and where in your sales and marketing infrastructure they're going to be added?

Angus: Yeah, uh ok, uh are you asking about more than just sales and marketing, I take it?

Sanders: Right.

Angus: We were at 715 employees in total at the end of March. And by the end of uh … right now our current plans say that we are going to increase that by about ten percent by the end of Q2 here, as we position ourselves for the expected recovery. And then potentially another ten percent increase after that in Q3 and Q4. The additions in the area of sales and marketing specifically are in the account management area, and to deal with our direct customers and the chipmakers.

Sanders: And where have you been successful in adding and where are you still needing additional employees?

Didier: We have been extremely successful in [long gap in the recording. Not sure if there was any lost info or not] Asia and Southeast Asia, we still have ongoing effort in Europe, the United States and Japan.

Nikolai Tishenko (ph), AB and Amerault: I was disconnected. One question was about gross margin, but you didn't answer it, so I'll call directly. The second - would you have a tax benefit for the second quarter?

Angus: The effective tax rate right now for the year is twenty-five percent, so if there's a loss in Q2 there will be a tax benefit commensurate with that.

[silence]

Angus: Nick, are you there?

Tishenko: [crackle] Yes! Hello!

Angus: did you hear my answer, Nick?

[silence]

Angus: Hello, Nick?

Moderator: Mr. Tishenko, did you have any further questions for the speaker today?

Tishenko: Yes, I do. Hi, something is going [blank] the line, I'm sorry. Could you please highlight your financial as of the day after you announced last quarter the investments into the infrastructure?

Marie Burke: Could you repeat the question, Nick?

Tishenko: Yeah, sure. I'm just asking to highlight your financial model after last quarter announcements into the infrastructure. The customer and service infrastructure.

Angus: Nick, why don't you give us a call after the conference call. I'm not sure I'm understanding your question, and I think we'd better deal with it then.

Tishenko: Sure.

Sheesh Kishmore (ph), Credit Research and Trading: Just a couple of quick questions, one balance sheet, one a little bit more strategy related. Your accounts receivable and specifically DSOs have increased over the last couple of quarters. I was wondering if you could provide a little color on that. And the second question with regard to your strategy of partnering with the end user the chip manufacturer to kind of create a kind of pull-type demand, if you can just provide a little bit of color on how that is progressing, thanks.

Angus: Yeah, the DSOs are basically affected by when the sales hit relative to the quarter. We are, when you average, when you do an aging of our accounts receivable outstanding, we see no actual growth in that, but basically you've got a hocky stick you're dealing with here in the quarter.

Kishmore: and with regards to just the strategy of partnering with the chip manufacturer to create pull demand?

Dedier: On the arena we've done some significant progress if you look at our Q1 repair and service revenue, a significant portion of that was from direct purchase orders and bookings directly from the chipmakers. Some of the projections that we had for our Q2 is the 5005 upgrade starting to hit the field is also in direct business with the chipmakers. So our real progress on our pull strategy is really producing on upgrades of the installed base as well as increased service revenue with the chipmakers. And we are making good progress here in Asia and the states. But as I said earlier-on, we are continuing building infrastructure in Japan, continuing building infrastructure in Europe, and as infrastructure gets built, we are going to see more and more positive impact with it.

Mark Fitzgerald, Merrill Lynch: Just two quick questions. Your Nikon business, was that mostly the 5000, 5010, or 6000? And what are you looking for a tax rate in 2000 here?

Angus: 5010 is the answer. And the, uh, 2000 right now, Mark, the only thing I can think is thirty-eight and a half.

Fitzgerald: So there's no benefit from all this overseas investment that's going in?

Angus: Well that's what you're starting to see this year, with the twenty-five percent tax rate.

Angus: Thank you very much for joining us.