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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Machaon who wrote (11340)	2/7/1999 2:21:00 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13994

I have to admit that I was surprised to see the impeachment process survive after the election. It is almost as if the founding fathers anticipated that a renagade president would commit these obvious crimes only in an environment where his opposition has shown profound cowardice and lack of conviction, and that the process should give a few obscure heros among that opposition the opportunity to arise and take charge. Therefore at every turning point so far the rule of law has prevailed against all odds. I agree with Gigot that it's victory in history is secure despite the ultimate verdict Friday. As of today, the consistantly-wrong establishment media is making estimates of how many Republicans will cross the line to acquittal by Friday. Let me give them my estimate based on careful analysis of the last 3 1/2 months: absolutely none. In fact, I predict that Graham's killing of early censure possibilities today, combined with the incredible pressure of being defined forever as pro-perjury and pro-obstruction will result in a maximum acquittal vote on either article of 38 to 40 votes. It is a shame, IMO, that the longest continuously-surviving political party in the history of democracy may have only half a dozen honorable men left in it. But a 45-Democrat acquittal would be much more of a stain on that once-respectable party.

To: Machaon who wrote (11340)	2/7/1999 2:32:00 PM
From: A. Borealis	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 13994

You can say that again! "Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!!!" Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!! Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!! Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!! Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!! Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!! Our hats are off to our President, William Jefferson Clinton!!!

To: Machaon who wrote (11340)	2/7/1999 4:43:00 PM
From: Ross Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Robert -- This is the text of the censure resolution that your fellow democrats are proposing ... Although they may balk at actually removing him from office, it's clear they all know the truth about what he did. Read it and weep, you pea-brain. re: Your, as usual, totally stupid claim that ... This wasn't really about sex, and it wasn't really about perjury, and it wasn't really about obstructing justice. This was about an attack on our government by a zealous bunch of right wing religious fundamentalists. From the Los Angeles Times Sunday, February 7, 1999 Text of Censure Resolution Being Circulated in Senate From a Times Staff Writer Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and others are lobbying for censure of President Clinton after his presumed acquittal of the impeachment charges against him. Here is one of the latest versions being circulated: Whereas William Jefferson Clinton, president of the United States, engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate employee in the White House, which was shameless, reckless and indefensible; Whereas William Jefferson Clinton, president of the United States, deliberately misled and deceived the American people and officials in all branches of the United States government; Whereas William Jefferson Clinton, president of the United States, gave false or misleading testimony and impeded discovery of evidence in judicial proceedings; Whereas William Jefferson Clinton's conduct in this matter is unacceptable for a president of the United States, does demean the Office of the President as well as the president himself, and creates disregard for the laws of the land; Whereas President Clinton fully deserves censure for engaging in such behavior; Whereas future generations of Americans must know that such behavior is not only unacceptable but also bears grave consequences, including loss of integrity, trust and respect; Whereas William Jefferson Clinton remains subject to criminal and civil actions; Whereas William Jefferson Clinton's conduct in this matter has brought shame and dishonor to himself and to the Office of the President; and Whereas William Jefferson Clinton through his conduct in this matter has violated the trust of the American people; Now therefore, be it resolved that: The United States Senate does hereby censure William Jefferson Clinton, president of the United States, and condemns his conduct in the strongest terms.