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To: Kid Rock who wrote (30459)	2/8/1999 7:28:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Thomas, Personally, I cannot imagine how anyone could do that procedure. Letting the head come out but not the body, then shoving a scissors into it's brain and see it jerk and spasm as it dies. Maybe they sedate it first, that would save the mother feeling her baby die. But how can anyone be so cold that they could do that. It's beyond me. I suppose their could be health risks in some cases that make it a choice between the mother or the baby. But if a child is that far along it may survive on it's own with intensive care, at least he/she should be given the chance. Bob

To: Kid Rock who wrote (30459)	2/8/1999 7:39:00 PM
From: James R. Barrett	Respond to of 108807

>>"Under your rules and conditions, as long as the body of the baby is inside the mother, she can give the go-ahead for a "doctor" to stab the cranium with a scissors and suck out the brain?"<< Do they come in different flavors?

To: Kid Rock who wrote (30459)	2/8/1999 10:05:00 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 108807

<<Under your rules and conditions, as long as the body of the baby is inside the mother, she can give the go-ahead for a "doctor" to stab the cranium with a scissors and suck out the brain? What if the baby is only half-way out? What if its just a big toe left? It's not a person yet? >> Clinton vetoed the ban on this procedure because there was no provision to do it to protect the health of the mother. When the delivery reaches this point all health concerns to the mother are past, it's just killing an inconvenient baby.

To: Kid Rock who wrote (30459)	2/9/1999 1:55:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<< So Delbert, Under your rules and conditions, as long as the body of the baby is inside the mother, she can give the go-ahead for a "doctor" to stab the cranium with a scissors and suck out the brain? What if the baby is only half-way out? What if its just a big toe left? It's not a person yet? >> They are not my rules and conditions. Those rules were decided by the courts, and I choose to go by court rulings. The alternative is anarchy. I imagine that no doctor "wants" to do the above procedure. It is easy for those sitting on the sidelines to be critical. The procedures described above that I have heard of were done on fetuses that had either no brain, or were severely deformed. We probably have the technology now to keep them alive on respirators indefinitely. Is that a better alternative? Are you willing to pay for around the clock care for those allowed to live, for the rest of their lives? Are you willing to be one of those that gives the care? Would you be willing to sacrifice the woman to let the fetus be born, in some cases? She just might leave some orphans. You haven't answered if you thought that it would be preferable to not anesthetize a late term fetus that was about to be aborted. Del