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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (49334)2/11/1999 10:46:00 PM
From: kash johal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573447
 
Jim

Camino delayed:


Semiconductors Systems & Software Design Technology People



Delay seen for Intel's Camino chip set
By David Lammers
EE Times
(02/11/99, 6:09 p.m. EDT)

SAN FRANCISCO — Difficulties in taking the Intel Camino chip set and the Rambus DRAMs it supports to the speeds necessary to accommodate a 133-MHz system bus may delay the rollout of personal computers based on the full-speed Rambus technology, sources said. Instead, Intel Corp. may support a 100-MHz system bus for its initial Pentium III processors, using Direct Rambus DRAMs operating at 600 MHz.

The Pentium III, or Katmai, will formally launch next week. Analyst Mark Edelstone at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter said the 820 Camino chip set that's needed to support the 800-MHz Rambus memories will be delayed to the third quarter. PC OEMs, he said, will go ahead with June introductions of Rambus-based systems, but with the memory speeds slowed to 600 MHz.

"Although these systems will not offer the full bandwidth benefit inherent in the Rambus memory architecture, we believe that PCs with the 600-MHz version of Direct Rambus DRAMs will offer twice as much bandwidth as PC100 versions when they run bandwidth-intensive applications like video and 3-D graphics," Edelstone wrote in a report.

Major PC makers had expected to introduce initial full-speed Rambus systems in June, moving to full-volume shipments in the second half. That schedule, while never officially endorsed by Intel, may now be pushed back, with a 100/600-MHz specification inserted.

"We are on track to introduce the Rambus technology in 1999," said an Intel spokesman.

At Rambus, marketing vice president Subodh Toprani said that the 600-MHz specification — referred to by Intel as "the down bin" — has been in the Rambus product plan since 1997. "At this point, there is not enough data. No one can say there won't be an 800-MHz introduction as planned," Toprani said.

Edelstone wrote that his firm still believes "Intel is on track to introduce a version of the chip set that will support 600-MHz versions of Direct Rambus DRAMs toward the end of the second quarter. However, we believe difficult technical hurdles will likely cause upwards of a three-month delay in Intel's ability to deliver a version of the 820 chip set to support the full Direct Rambus DRAM spec of 800 MHz."

Intel has said it will reveal modified plans for its Rambus program at the Intel Developer Forum set for Feb. 23-25. A likely scenario is support for a two-stage introduction, with the initial Pentium III processor linked to a 100-MHz system bus by a Camino chip set that supports RDRAMs operating at 600 MHz. Once Camino silicon is ready that can support the 133-MHz system bus, and once yields on the full-spec RDRAMs reach sufficient quantities, PC OEMs could introduce the 133/800 systems.

The issue is how to balance the overall performance of the system, sources said. Without a chip set that can support a 133-MHz system bus, there is little need to move to the 800-MHz Rambus technology.

The 600-MHz Rambus parts can provide 1.2 Gbytes/second of peak bandwidth, compared with 1.6 Gbytes/s for the 800-MHz RDRAMs and 500 Mbytes/s for the PC100 SDRAMs. The bandwidth is divided among the system bus, the Accelerated Graphics Port and the PCI bus.

PC OEMs would like to refresh the top ends of their product line in the second half. But one source said that some IT managers are reluctant to move to the Rambus technology while the year-2000 problem is putting demands on the software used in corporate America.

Another source noted that delays in the delivery of full-spec Rambus parts would make more room for the PC133 SDRAM specification to be adopted in the personal-computer sector.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (49334)2/12/1999 2:47:00 AM
From: Yousef  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573447
 
Jim,

Re: "If not, why do you insist on playing the clown. Is this why the guys
at Intel call you an Idiot?"

RELAX Jim ... I know that the past month has been very hard for you to
watch AMD be "flushed", just as Yousef predicted. I'm sorry Jim, but you
are a "loser" ... I imagine that "J M Investments" is also a "loser".

Make It So,
Yousef