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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (31254)	2/19/1999 4:52:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

That then makes the war the homosexual lobby is waging on us immoral. I have yet to see an example of this "war" - remember the website I asked you about, the one you haven't found? The teaching that gay people are "normal" is largely a semantic question. If you teach that some people have a different sexual orientation and that those people are as human as the rest of us and deserve to be treated as we would wish to be treated ourselves, does that mean we have taught that gay sex is normal? Is this teaching wrong? Three options. We can teach nothing at all, which is what we have done so far; the kids learned the lesson from their peers, and it was an ugly lesson. We can teach that gay people are abnormal, another word for disordered, possibly perverted, and exacerbate the hostility that is already there. Or we can teach that gay people are humans that happen to be different. Which would you prefer? Trying to teach the sexual process in any school is ridiculous, with any orientation. They'll figure it out. Teaaching about the causes, effects, and risks is justified; it is better if parents do it, but too many parents can't, won't, or just don't.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (31254)	2/19/1999 5:06:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

Ah, the vicious NEA. A totally powerless organization of which I am a member as a result of a state law. The NEA passes dozens evwen hundreds of high-minded resolutions each year. Would you stop them? Do not they have a right to say anything they please? And the school boards make the decisions about what teachers can teach and what materials can be used. I agree that it is dangerous to teach children about the "gay life style." Suppose the kids should learn that there are people who have thousands of sexual partners in their lives, instead of the one permitted to the orthodox. Suppose children should learn that the value in a homosexual love affairs was love, pleasure and gratification, instead of husband's duty to fertilize his wife (without pleasure on either part). Suppose children should learn that since marriage to each other is forbidden homosexuals, that there was no legal duty of faithfulness, but that unmarried queers could love whomever they pleased ad often as they wished. But the fact remains that homosexuals are just as normal. natural as anyone. What is unnatural is that one man should limit himself exclusively to one woman, and one woman to man. That a man unsatisfied by his wife should not have sexual relations with anyone else. That a woman neglected by her sole husband should not find someone to love and comfort her. There's gross unnaturalness and I never taught my kids that they should bind their power to love to an unchangeable slavery. Thank the universe that they never had a single church-like thought in their entire lives, that they never hated anyone because of their sexual preferences, that they despised the hypocrites and liars who praise traditional marriage and none of them ever bound themselves to that fatal trap. I believe in lovers loving lovers. If they drop out and join the dull unhappy crowd of husbands that abuse and cheat on their wives, I've wasted all my time. And as a man, a woman should be free to seek love where it is. not subject to a man or laws, but free to love. Contraception and abortion have freed women from slavery to men. I would teach my granddaughter that from her earliest age she is free to love whom she pleases, how she pleases, but must understand the consequences and the regret that comes from foolishness and lack of concern for the future. Of course, I will not be able to teach my granddaughter. because her father, having learned this message from me, has already begun to teach it to her.