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To: Dayuhan who wrote (31273)	2/19/1999 6:52:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Look Steve. It's so obvious that men and woman are meant to be together it doesn't even need to be mentioned except now in these perverse times. Just for arguments sake let's say we evolved to reproduce. This can only be accomplished by man/woman coupling. There is even a pleasure incentive built into the process to ensure the survival of every species. The ones who go against the design die out and the trait dies with them. Natural selection. Men and woman are designed for each other. How much more clear can it be. The deviation from that design plan by odd balls who are malfunctioning goes against common sense. But now the lunatics are trying to take over the asylum! In nature animals that are different are shunned by the group and eliminated. Predators drive out the odd balls from the litter. Culling the species is normal. Don't try to put the burden of proof on me to find things as you dictate. I know as soon as I do you will change your parameters. It's there, find it yourself.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (31273)	2/19/1999 7:13:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Respond to of 108807

Thank you, Steven, once again for being the voice of sweet reason. If in the schools they are teaching tolerance and the attempt to understand that other people live very different lives, one should have little objection. Even my last surviving uncle, a deeply religious person who believes wholeheartedly that homosexuality is a mortal sin of the same order as adultery, does not take his belief into his day-to-day dealings with human beings, gives liberally to AIDS research, visits members of his and his wife's churches who have become ill when they are in the hospital, and mourns their deaths. He regards the people themselves as people; he reconciles the apparent conflict between his belief and his behavior with the words of Christ: "Judge not lest ye be judged." This kind of tolerance I admire. This kind of tolerance is what I wish I could see in every home and in every school. I do not feel comfortable with the school system's promulgating any form of sexual expression as "normal." (Dammit, when will people remember that the word simply means positioned at the upper part of the normal curve, i.e., where the majority clusters, rather than a basis for judgement for what is healthy?!) That is the realm of parents, even the parents who can't bring themselves to impart basic information about reproduction. Even when they don't talk about sex, parents convey a world view and, therefore, a context. That context can be marvelously healthy, even when the parents can't bring themselves to be as frank and instructive as one might wish they could be. If there is open affection and appreciation, a tangible atmosphere of respect and love, the children may need someone to explain the physiology; they will need no explanation of the dynamic. One would not expect these children to rack up numbers of partners for the sake of the numbers themselves, even they are homosexual. BTW, for a deeper understanding of this kind of thinking, read (you too, Sidney) John Rechy's Numbers. This is not really about sex. It is about narcissism and helps explain the apparent "hypersexuality" among some members of the gay community. It also skews the samples and provides great news fodder, as did Plato's Retreat for straights. Both are hardly representative of the larger community's behavior, whether it be straight or homosexual. This has turned into a very long posting. Please don't get so tired from reading it that you all quit!