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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (31281)2/20/1999 5:52:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
Your biological ignorance is showing. You forget that man is a social animal with complex ways of surviving. That homosexuality or the capacity for homosexuality has not been bred out of mankind in 100,000 generations is enough to prove that it does not injure the species. Certainly 6 billion people is enough. The facts are despite the discrimination against them, that homosexuals (especially bisexuals) are richer, more effective, and have better occupations than purely hetero- or non-sexual males. As Bacon pointed out, a man who marries and has children has given hostages to fortune. He cannot be existentially brave, or give his life to art or music. I deny absolutely that a married purely heterosexual person can become a great painter or sculptor, or novelist, or leader of people. The reason is quite clear to me. A bisexual recognizes both a male and female side of self. Can, with practice, love everyone. Can relate in the closest way with anyone. A purely heterosexual male is a prisoner of masculine agressiveness. Because he cannot imagine being raped, he cannot understand how wrong rape is. Because he always take the initiative in sex, he cannot understand that sometimes love responds and does not initiate. Why do you suppose the great clothing designers, painters, sculptors, generals, conquerors, musicians, speakers, poets, dramatists are so often gueer? Do you think Alexander could have induced men whom he didn't love to follow him to death in the far reaches of Asia? Do you suppose a purely heterosexual Jesus could have induced men to give up their lives if he did not love them? Do you suppose that Jesus and John drew the distinction between sexual and Platonic love? We make, I think, a great mistake to deny that love for others was not steeped in sexual love. Did it matter if the homosexual love was purely ideal? What is love except a joining of two -- whether souls or bodies? So homosexuals without wives and children can protect the family (like beta wolves who never breed) and invent and create and advance the culture of the group. That seems to be what has happened to us, despite the attempts of puny people like you to destroy the creative fragment not bound up with pups to care for. I believe in natural selection, and I am convinced that the homosexuals will long survive. Nature does not need much of our reproductive powers. It needs people who can love each other. Many homosexuals are very good at that and can love far more than you on your best lifetime.



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (31281)2/20/1999 7:46:00 AM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 108807
 
But now the lunatics are trying to take over the asylum!

I'm still waiting for some evidence on that one.

In nature animals that are different are shunned by the group and eliminated. Predators drive out the odd balls from the litter. Culling
the species is normal.


Are you suggesting that we "cull" gay people from our litters? Do you have children? If one were gay, would you be willing to do the culling?

We could also take that a step further. Obviously, the survival of the species will be best advanced if the most successful males do all the breeding, as they do in many social species. Monogamy, then, is a destructive notion from an evolutionary perspective; should the monagamous and those who promote monogamy be culled?

How would you like us to do the culling? Shall we toss them out to starve in the woods or shall we be quick and merciful about it?



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (31281)2/20/1999 8:00:00 AM
From: Hubert Few  Respond to of 108807
 
I am just *ecstatic* about sharing this timely topic with the group!

There is mounting evidence that certain diseases which have been attributed to genetics, may in fact be linked to bacteria and viruses (or toxins created by our own bodies in retaliation to same)

For a really thought provoking article which touches on the possibilities, check this out:

theatlantic.com