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To: Petz who wrote (50805)	2/24/1999 12:21:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572086

Paul and everyone else - Someone may be crashing Intel's PIII party And it will be Intel themselves... Check out these links. "Intel might just be wishing that it had never included the security feature in the Pentium III." news.com ""Can [the serial code] be hacked? The answer is, it can," Waldrop [an Intel spokesman] said." Did you get that one Paul? Intel's PIII security feature has been hacked, and the PIII ISN'T EVEN OUT YET!!! "Rambus memory technology delayed" news.com "Computers using the Rambus memory standard and the latest version of Intel's Accelerated Graphics Port have been delayed until late in the third quarter, Intel said today, a delay that will temporarily slow down parts of the Intel world." "Camino's delay, for instance, will obviously mean that PCs equipped with fast Rambus memory won't appear until late in the third quarter." "Intel will also have to wait a few more months until it upgrades the system bus that connects to the Pentium III." Got that Paul? RAMBUS memory DELAYED. Camino DELAYED. AGP 4X DELAYED. 133MHz bus DELAYED. Coppermine and Cascades may also be DELAYED. Intel is going to have more delays than AMD did!!! As many people have said, there are no real reasons to purchase PIII systems until the real, Camino-based PIII systems come out. Too bad they will be DELAYED by about THREE months!!! The Bottom Line: Delay in Camino which supports 133MHz bus -> Less money from not selling more expensive chipset + Less money from not selling 133MHz bus capable motherboards + Less money from not selling 133MHz bus capable processors = Less revenue in Q2. Add in the possibility that XEON w/on-chip cache may be delayed and things start to look even worse. All these DELAYS by the Satan of Silicon (tm PR Engel) will allow AMD an even greater opportunity to take marketshare from Intel. The way it *was* going to be, Intel was going to have superior technology before the K7 came out. Now, Camino will come out AFTER the K7 because Camino was DELAYED!!! How do you like this "bile and vehemence" from Intel, Paul?!

To: Petz who wrote (50805)	2/24/1999 2:30:00 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572086

<Winstone 99 IS the most important benchmark, even for "high end" users.> Oh yeah? According to Apple, BYTEMark is the "industry standard" benchmark. And Apple says that the iMac with its 233 MHz G3 processor scores higher on the "industry standard" than Pentium II 400. Do you know how many Mac fanatics fell for this marketing stunt? Petz, let's get one thing straight. There is NO single most important benchmark out there, because people buy computers for different reasons. Some need just office productivity apps. Some (like myself) are hardcore gamers. Some like to surf the internet and download MP3 files or just chat. Some use heavy-duty 3D modeling or CAD applications, or write complex simulations. Some host Web pages or do other sorts of Web page development. It's that market segmentation thingy. Intel segmented the market not to crush AMD with low Celeron prices, but because Intel realized that the x86 processor market is maturing and diversifying. Having one single processor doing everything makes no sense anymore, unlike yesterday. The K6-3 has its place. The Pentium III has its place. K6-2 and Celeron have their place as well. Heck, even the iMac has its place (right next to the 1998 VW Bug). But AMD marketing hasn't figured this out yet, or care to. They're too obsessed with trying to push back a tidal wave of Pentium III marketing that they've even called their new processor the K6-III! Therefore, people are expecting a little too much from the K6-III, and thank God we have guys like Anand and Tom to set the record straight and show that the K6-III is not the Pentium III killer that all the anti-Intel zealots were hoping for. So why shouldn't AMD position the K6-III against the Pentium III? After all, Apple's marketing department proves that a little anti-Intel FUD can go a long way. Unfortunately, AMD has a history of "Pentium killers" which failed to do just that. K5 was supposed to be the "Kryptonite" which cripples the Pentium. K6 and K6-2 was supposed to be the Pentium II killer. Now the K6-III is trying to be the Pentium III killer? Fat chance. (On the other hand, AMD will have better luck killing the Pentium III with the K7 than the K6-III.) Tenchusatsu P.S. - Oh well, I guess my whole rant here will be for naught, now that someone has managed to throw more fuel into the serial number issue.