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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (74465)	2/25/1999 2:18:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

<Has Otellini lost his mind?> This is so sad. Pardon my language, but I have to vent some frustration. Very few people give a rat's ass about a confirmed adulterer and an alleged rapist in the Oval Office. But when Intel introduces a serial number in a processor that is no more harmful to privacy than a credit card or social security number, all hell breaks loose. Well, I think in light of this madness, I'll change my own stance on this matter. Intel should give up on the hard-line stance and just offer two versions of the Pentium III: One with the ID, and one without. Tenchusatsu

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (74465)	2/25/1999 3:24:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim, re:"Has Otellini lost his mind?" Yes he has! "[Otellini] pointed to the 500,000-plus people who signed up for FreePC.com's giveaway of computers. To get one of the 30,000 PCs, each customer would be subject to constant advertisements and give up a great deal of personal information. "The people who are willing to give up their privacy for a free PC are our market," he said." This a script line from Night of the Living Zombies I believe. Jeff

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (74465)	2/25/1999 3:50:00 PM
From: Joey Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

re:Has Otellini lost his mind? Pretty confident statement. Maybe he knows something we don't... like pent-up PIII demand. hint. hint joey

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (74465)	2/25/1999 6:15:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Hey Jim, I wonder how the ID number is set in the first place. If the ID isn't "set in silicon stone", then perhaps Intel can release a newer version of the Pentium III with some sort of switch that permanantly erases the ID number. Then if the user so chooses, he or she can go to Intel's web site, download a utility, and set the ID to zeros. This way, Intel can save some face and give consumers a real choice. By the way, proper implementation can make sure that this tool can't be used by hackers to program their own ID numbers into their chips. Tenchusatsu

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (74465)	2/25/1999 7:48:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim, re:"CDT to file Intel complaint over ID chip" zdnet.com exerpts: "The Center for Democracy and Technology, a privacy and consumer rights group, said it will file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission on Friday, citing Intel Corp. for unfair trade practices in bringing its processor ID to market." . . . Selling PCs while assuring users the ID feature is turned off could be risky for original equipment manufacturers in light of a German computer magazine's recent claim that the feature is vulnerable to hackers, the letter states. "We believe that such a claim made under current circumstances could constitute a material misrepresentation of the sort prohibited by federal consumer protection laws and regulations," according to the letter, which was sent to the chief executive officers of Dell, Gateway, Compaq, Hewlett-Packard and IBM. "Intel has put the onus on the manufacturers, and that's not a good spot for them to be in," Sobel said. "If Dell sells me a PC and says this feature can't be turned on, and then it is turned on" resulting in a crime such as credit card number or Social Security number theft, "then I'm going to turn around and sue Dell," he said. Jeff