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To: Scumbria who wrote (74636)	2/26/1999 5:06:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<Many of the best engineers avoid working at Intel, like the plague.> Gee, thanks Slick. Maybe we "mediocre" Intel engineers should take up politics instead. Tenchusatsu

To: Scumbria who wrote (74636)	2/26/1999 5:23:00 PM
From: John Hull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Scum, base salary is only a part of the compensation and its a minority of mine. bonuses, options, stock participation plans, retirement plans and more keep Intel folks well compensated compared to industry peers. Intel doesn't "own" their employees, they're here because they want to be. I don't know why I post to you, I know you write this crap just to get people agitated. Most of the time I'm entertained by it, but I have to object when you post blatant lies. regards, jh

To: Scumbria who wrote (74636)	2/27/1999 7:28:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

And according to the EE Times 1997, 1998 surveys, Intel is the second preferred place for EE's to work (behind HP) and has the highest total compensation (because stock options are usually worth something at Intel.) But Scummy, your vanity may be showing. Please answer the following questions (I think you owe us that) 1. Have you ever applied for a job at Intel, even indirectly? 2. Has Intel ever offered you a job? 3. Have you ever worked for anyone whose options outperformed Intel's? How much have you received from options over how many years? 4. How many patents have you been granted? Anything significant? Any well known designs (you don't have to name them, I'll take your word.) 5. How many reviewed or refereed papers have you published? Any thing significant? 6. Any other evidence you'd care to introduce that you are a creative engineer? I am not trying to put you down, or invade your privacy. I just want give you an opportunity to show how good your career opportunities and performance have been in contrast to what Intel offers its uncreative engineers. If Intel's engineers really are inferior, then I'm even more impressed with their management (mostly engineers) that get such great results from such inferior people. Sharing the wealth may really work. Maybe AMD should at least give a Matchbox Rolls to its engineers if they can't options that end up in the money.

To: Scumbria who wrote (74636)	2/27/1999 1:36:00 PM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

OT Re: "Intel has a reputation as being a lousy place for a creative engineer to work. " Scumbria What, and get in trouble with the DOJ? ;*) How would a manufacturing company with a predominantly efficient factory process culture enable the free-wheeling, loose and creative environment of flourishing ideas, and fun, exciting and passionate implementations? Shouting definitely doesn't create positive creative energy. But fun, positive brainstorming and implementation does. Following rules and orders doesn't foster creativity. Yet breaking them to establish new and better ideas does. Formality isn't creative. Top-down isn't creative. Yet, uniformity is efficient and less costly. How can a manufacturing company support both the efficient factory commodity-like culture and the intensely creative innovative culture? Aren't they inherently at odds? It seems Intel tries to do both. Amy J