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To: Edwarda who wrote (1971)3/1/1999 1:17:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4711
 
Oh, dear. Well, I certainly don't want to be guilty of "utterly dreadful misusage." Thanks for the tip. I'll try to do better next time.

Maybe you can straighten me out (about)(with respect to)(with regard to) (regarding) "that" and "which."

What does TTFN stand for?



To: Edwarda who wrote (1971)3/1/1999 1:20:00 PM
From: Neenny  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4711
 
Edwarda,

After reading this post, I know I need to run from this thread, leaving as quickly as I can!!

I would hate to be caught in your next rampage!!

~~Neenny~~

Would it have been correct to have said, "would hate to be caught in your next rampage?"



To: Edwarda who wrote (1971)3/1/1999 1:57:00 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4711
 
Just for fun, here's another issue for you to go ballistic about. (Watching you go ballistic is SO much fun!)

This post hopefully will answer those and other questions.

Hopefully we can smash this use of hopefully. But I'm not hopeful.



To: Edwarda who wrote (1971)3/1/1999 6:40:00 PM
From: TH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4711
 
Edwarda,

Due to a massive hemorrhage in my left pre-frontal lobe I must refrain from further reading of any of yours posts on this thread because of the fact that I like you only have two which mean that due to the fact that I lost one because of the hemorrhage which was massive that I only have one left.

Due to a deep need to analyze stuff I need that one and because of fortuitous fate I have not lost the one that does that.

I must go watch ER now due to the medical nature of the show and maybe I can find a way to fix it with stuff I keep around the house because of potential unforeseen emergencies.

Thurston



To: Edwarda who wrote (1971)3/2/1999 2:05:00 AM
From: David C. Burns  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 4711
 
Fowler's thoughts on the matter:

due. Has due to, using the weapon of ANALOGY, won a prescriptive right to be treated as though it had passed, like OWING TO, into a compound preposition? May we now regard as idiomatic such sentences as Due to the great depth of water, air pressures up to 50 lb. per square inch will be necessary. / Rooks, probably due to the fact that they are so often shot at, have a profound distrust of man. / Due to last night's rain play will be impossible before lunch? Or must we say that, although in these quotations owing to would stand, due, which must, like ordinary participles and adjectives, be attached to a noun, and not to a notion extracted from the sentence, is impossible; that it is not the pressures, the rooks, and play that are due but the force of the pressure, the timidity of the rooks, and the absence of play?

The prepositional use of owing to is some 150 years old, but of a similar use of due to there is net a vestige in the OED (1897); in the 1933 Supp. it is said to be 'frequent in U.S. use', and in 1964 the COD tersely dismisses it as 'incorrect'. The original edition of the present Dictionary said this: 'It is now as common as can be, though only, if the view taken in this article is correct, among the illiterate; that term is here to be taken as including all who are unfamiliar with good writers, and are consequently unaware of any idiomatic difference between Owing to his age he was unable to compete and Due to his age he was unable to compete. Perhaps the illiterates will beat idiom; perhaps idiom will beat the illiterates; our grandsons will know.' Now, when this usage is still 'as common as can be' and is freely employed by BBC announcers, it seems clear that idiom, though still resisting stoutly, is fighting a losing battle. The offending usage has indeed become literally part of the Queen's English. Due to inability to market their grain, prairie farmers have been faced for some time with a serious shortage of sums to meet their immediate needs. (Speech from the Throne on the opening of the Canadian Parliament by Elizabeth II, 14 Oct. 1957.)