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To: porcupine --''''> who wrote (1398)3/2/1999 10:01:00 AM
From: Freedom Fighter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1722
 
Porc,

>>If you really wanted to, you would. But, you insist on having the last word, in a way that
is so disrespectful that no one could fail to respond.<<

The above is the exact reason I respond. YOU say I am disrespectful and want the last word. I say I want MY words and views to be CLEAR. So if a post of yours that uses my words is not clear (unintentionally) I feel I must clarify. I am dragged into discussing things like AS, Hussman etc.. That is why I get so frustrated with you.

>>Imnsho, no one in the history of the Internet has been more
fair in quoting prior posts, line by line, than I have in your case. You're not being
mischaracterized. You're being exposed. The two are different.<<

I agree about your fairness. But again this is what I am talking about. I do not think you are trying to be unfair. I never said that. YOU SAID THAT and are ATTRIBUTING IT TO MY THOUGHTS . I think you are trying to make your own points on an issue. That's cool. But if you use my words and they are an incomplete explanation of my feelings on the subject either because they weren't expressed clearly to begin with or because the single sentence is not a complete thought, I like to clarify. That can drag me into conversations I do not want to have. Like having to tell you I think you are very fair, but sometimes misunderstand what I am saying.

I am being exposed as a person who occasionally finds articles of interest that express views that I think are worthy of reading but not worthy of a lot of my time discussing. Certainly, most of them are similar to my own. That I post them does not mean I want to defend the authors or discuss them.

I am not competing with you or trying to make points. I am offering my insights to GADR etc.. for free because it's fun and I like to help people. That does not mean I have the time to talk about everything you might want to. It does mean that I want my own thoughts to be clear.

You can attack Hussman, AS, or anyone else you want. I don't care at all. If I feel I have something to contribute and I want to I will. That does not mean I want to have a 20 post conversation clarfying my views because you are using my words in ways that are not a true reflection of me feelings (unintentionally).

Don't take my responses personal. I just want people to know what I think on the issues. I do not want them to know what YOU think my views on the issues are.

I won't post anything here anymore that I don't want to discuss. The last few days has done little for GADR readership, wasted both our time and unfortunately verified that you and I can't have an ongoing dialogue.

Wayne



To: porcupine --''''> who wrote (1398)3/2/1999 3:53:00 PM
From: porcupine --''''>  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1722
 
AT&T loses more top talent as business chief quits --'''':<

By Jessica Hall
NEW YORK, Feb 24 (Reuters) - AT&T Corp. on Wednesday
lost another key executive as the head of its lucrative
business services unit resigned to take the helm at Global
Crossing Ltd. , a company building undersea and
land-based fiber optic networks.
Bob Annunziata resigned as president of AT&T's $22 billion
business services division, which provides voice and data
services to 8 million business customers, after just seven
months on the job. He will be replaced by Mike Keith, who
previously served as the unit's executive vice president.
Annunziata returned to AT&T last July, after a 15-year
hiatus, when the nation's No. 1 long-distance carrier bought
the company he had founded, Teleport Communications Group, for
about $12 billion. He had overseen AT&T's business unit since
September.
"Annunziata leaving is a blow to AT&T, who counted on his
contribution and who needs entrepreneurial talent now more than
ever as they struggle to reinvent themselves," said Jeffrey
Kagan, an independent telecommunications analyst.
Another analyst, who declined to be named, said that
Annunziata's brash style may have clashed with the conservative
and bureaucratic culture at AT&T.
Annunziata began his career at AT&T and worked there for 17
years before leaving for Teleport in 1983. During his brief
tenure with the business services division, the unit's revenues
increased 4.7 percent in the second half of the year, slightly
below expectations.
The addition of Annunziata, known for an ability to turn
telecom industry dark horses into Wall Street darlings, is a
coup for Global Crossing, which will immediately gain more
visibility with him as chief executive, analysts said.
Shares of Global Crossing surged on the news, gaining $4.25
or almost 8 percent to $57.875. Shares of AT&T fell $1.31 to
$84.56.
Annunziata's departure from AT&T follows recent changes in
some high-level management duties and adds to the long list of
high-profile executives who have left over the past two years.
Analysts expect more defections of marquee talent as AT&T
completes its planned acquisition of the cable television
company Tele-Communications Inc. and tries to
transform itself from a stodgy phone company into a fast-moving
telecommunications industry leader.
"AT&T's bench is full of strength because of all the new
talent coming in (from acquisitions). They all look around and
realize there isn't enough room here for all of them to shine.
I wouldn't be surprised to see more people leave," Kagan said.
AT&T President John Zeglis, who oversees consumer long
distance operations and international activities, has been
rumored as one executive who may leave. Zeglis was once
considered a possible successor to former AT&T Chairman Robert
Allen, but he lost out when AT&T's directors opted instead to
bring in C. Michael Armstrong from Hughes Electronics Corp.
as Allen's heir.
AT&T recently shuffled the duties of several top executives
to prepare for its pending acquisition of TCI, with Armstrong
taking more control over day-to-day operations and over TCI.
As part of that move, TCI President Leo Hindery will
oversee the broadband business and report directly to
Armstrong, instead of Zeglis as originally planned. Some
analysts viewed that move as a sign Zeglis may be edged out.
Other key executives who have left AT&T include Gail
McGovern, head of AT&T's consumer services unit, who left in
August to join the mutual fund company Fidelity Investments.
Then Jack McMaster, another top consumer unit executive, left
just three months later to join Qwest Communications
International Inc. .
Jeffrey Weitzen, the former head of business markets
division, left in Jan. 1998 to become president of Gateway 2000
Inc.
Other famous AT&T alumni include former long distance
chief, Joe Nacchio, who left to run Qwest, the No. 4 U.S. long
distance company, and its former chief operating officer, Alex
Mandl, who left to join upstart Teligent Inc. .
(( Jessica Hall, New York newsroom 212-859-1729))



To: porcupine --''''> who wrote (1398)3/2/1999 4:11:00 PM
From: porcupine --''''>  Respond to of 1722
 
IBM holds 7.2 pct of Prodigy after note conversion --'''':<

WASHINGTON, Feb 24 (Reuters) - International Business
Machines Corp. said Wednesday in a Securities and
Exchange Commission filing that it held a 7.2 percent stake, or
4,536,778 common shares, of Prodigy Communications Corp.

IBM spokesman John Bukovinsky said the Armonk, N.Y.,
computer maker's stake in Prodigy was the result of converting
debentures it received as part of its deal to sell Prodigy to a
Mexican-led investor group in 1996.
Terms of that deal allowed IBM to convert the debentures it
received into a stake of up to 7.5 percent in the company.
Based on the valuation of the company around the time of
Prodigy's public offering, IBM ended up receiving a 7.2 percent
stake.
Bukovinsky said IBM's stake occurred "automatically as a
result of the conditions that were part of the sale."
The spokesman said IBM had the option to convert its stake
into cash or shares and elected to take Prodigy shares.
IBM disclosed its stake in the White Plains, N.Y., Internet
service provider in a 13G filing with the SEC.
Those filings are usually made by institutions and large
investors with passive investment objectives in a company.
Unlike 13D filings, 13Gs do not include details such as when
securities were bought or sold, or at what price.
SEC spokesman John Heine said that any company or
individual who acquires a passive stake in excess of 5 percent
of the controlled, or holding, securities of a company must
file a 13G within 45 days of the close of the calendar year.
((Peter Ramjug at Washington newsroom, phone: 202-898-8399
Fax: 202 347-3853, E-Mail peter.ramjug@reuters.com))