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To: Kirk Vanden who wrote (5794)3/1/1999 11:29:00 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 14451
 
Good commentary, but I think waiting for a more expensive Pentium three with it's reported wow of 10% increase in performance at what cost up was not very good business in terms of generating revenue. SGI did not know sooner that the P3 would give a lackluster performance improvement???? What's that word from the oval office?? Ah yes, misleading.

But I guess seeing anything run on virus NT-us at what appears to be a reasonable speed is an astounding feat.

What did you see that you thought was impressive?
Was it an app that you had seen before only running on an O200 and the performance was as good or something similar.

Astounding is my impression of Xi Graphics OpenGL demo on a PII 300 running Linux. 5 Apps running on 4 headed O200 and displaying seamlessly on the Linux(100 base-t) box and totally native newave running on the linux box.

Tom Watson tosiwme.



To: Kirk Vanden who wrote (5794)3/3/1999 4:30:00 AM
From: Andrew Walton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14451
 
Kirk Vandem wrote...

2.) I asked about PCI bus design flaws being responsible
for the slow shipping. I was told the real reason is that
SGI wanted to wait until the Pentium III became available
to ship. I even asked the SGI engineer very clearly once
again if the PCI bus problems were true. He said this was
not the case. I'm afraid I wasn't convinced with the waiting
for Pentium III response.

The PCI bus in the 320 is 3.3v, this is in line with the PCI 2.2
specification. The previous PCI specification (2.1) has a 5v bus.

Obviously you can't use 5v cards on a 3.3v bus. In fact the connectors
have a notch to prevent this. There are some universal cards that can
be used with 5v and 3.3v buses.

Since most PCI cards are 5v, this puts a restriction on what you can
put in your 320. For many people this won't be a problem since the
graphics, audio, video, networking, USB and FireWire are on the
motherboard. The few cards you may need, such as SCSI, are available
as universal cards.

Design flaw? No, I don't think so, as far as I know the implementation
of PCI on the 320 is in line with the specification.

Bad design decision? Possibly, I guess who ever made that choice
expected 3.3v or, more likely, universal cards to be much more
widespread by now.

As for waiting for the PIII, the suggestion that this is the PIII Xeon
for the 540 (in a latter post) is much more plausible. Especially
since the 320 is shipping.