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To: joel3 who wrote (10930)	3/2/1999 2:16:00 AM
From: Patrick Grinsell	Respond to of 16960

You think that's bad... Wait 'till you see the GX-4 about Rampage time from these guys. It's basically dual S4. Since this will probably be the last thing this year from S3 I assume it will be the one to have geometry acceleration (according to J.C. at id). Bottom Line: 3dfx will not be alone. Rampage must be more than "good enough". I must admit the S4 product looks like it hits more bullet points (AGP 4x,32 MB, $129 retail) than the Voodoo3. Should be a winner. Pat

To: joel3 who wrote (10930)	3/2/1999 3:09:00 AM
From: Ben Wu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 16960

32MB at $129.99 ouch. I guess the pricing gauntlet has been thrown down. I wonder how the other IHV's are going to react. More importantly, how is 3Dfx going to react to this. Bite the bullet and drop the price on V3-2000 or hope the 3Dfx name is worth the premium. the most interesting "bullet" is full-screen anti-aliasing. I wonder how much of a performance hit they'll be taking. I still remember playing quake on a S3 virge. I remember crying. =) one more interesting note, I noticed on one of the hardware sites (maximumPC) that 3Dfx is selling V3-2000 chips to motherboard makers in addition to making their own motherboard solution. I'm just wondering how easy is it to slap in a LCDfx chip with it and call it a notebook solution?

To: joel3 who wrote (10930)	3/2/1999 7:27:00 AM
From: Joe C.	Respond to of 16960

Doesn't sound very fast though. I wonder how it will stack up to Banshee? Joe C.

To: joel3 who wrote (10930)	3/2/1999 8:01:00 PM
From: Michael Madden	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 16960

CL Savage4 card at $130 is "estimated STREET price". If you read the press release carefully you will notice that under "Price and Availability" the $130 is qualified as STREET price. In 3DFX's press release, the $130 price for the V3-2000 is listed as the suggested retail price. It could be that street and retail price are equivalent terms to Creative Labs. But, I'm more inclined to believe that it's marketing spin to make the Creative card look cheaper than the Diamond card which is rumored will carry a suggested retail price of $150. Also note that the fill rate is listed as 125 Mpixels/second. S3's site states that the chip supports either 125MHz or 143MHz bus speeds. Given that S3 quotes a fill rate of 140 Mpixels/second for the Savage4 on their web site, the CL card appears to use a 125MHz memory bus.