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To: mark silvers who wrote (24759)	3/2/1999 11:20:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

MArk, I will ATTEMPT to discuss it. I don't feel I am I am up to the task, If I fall on my face , oh well. Subserviant, compliant, weaker sex? In any generation, those are words describing I am not sure I see "sub-serviant" here. I do see weaker sex and literally that is true, IF Paul was talking literally. (Physical strength that is) Let me ask you.Do you feel that you are not a human or that you are not important or that you are second class, because YOU answer to someone at work? If you do then you are a product of this generation.No self satisfaction. ((( Case in point))) My Grandfather was a cabinet maker. He did that for the last 45 years of his working life, at the SAME shop. He had no desire to own a cabinet shop. He had no desire to switch jobs for 10.00 more a month every year. But man oh man could he build cabinets!! Beautiful cabinets. Do you think he considered himself a second class citizen?? Why is it then any different for a woman?? My guess is this generation SAYS it is different. Of course this generation also idolized Jerry Garcia. See my point? The passages you posted, say that a man is to love and honor a women, but it clearly gives a women a secondary role. Show me the way you deduct that a womans role is a "secondary" role. Again I contend that is the "generation" that says it is. Who says it is secondary?? tell me if you can. OK then YOU take over having a baby... can you do it? No?....Then I contend that YOU are a second class person because you are not allowed to carry a child. Do you think such a clearly superior act should be left up to a woman?? If a man treats his wife according to the passages we have both cut and pasted, he will love and honor her, that is true. However, she will also be taking a back seat to the husband inmany ways. that may be fine with many women, and if that is the case, then that is great. Why the "however, Mark? Ypouu always have to have a "however" .Can you tell me why you say however? My wife takes a back seat to no one. Cause her role is different does not make it secondary. What backseat, Mark? What backseat are you talking about? or other women, it may not be as great. there is no reason a competent, talented women shold have to hide those talents, for the sole reason that she is not a man. What talents Mark? Why does a woman hide a talent? In fact as Nancy said, why does a woman even have to be married. ((Of course there is instruction even for the unmarried in the bible too)) You se how hard it is for me to discuss. That is because I believe if I am "serving" my family as I am called to do, then the rest will fall into place. I cannot answer for my wife. I asked her last night what she felt about this topic, and she told me that the "world" can never seem satisfied, and that seemed to be the base of the matter. But for specific info from her about these passeges of scripture, I will be glad to let her speak to you if you so desire. It would be in the evenings as she does not have internet access at work. dan