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To: ForYourEyesOnly who wrote (29456)3/6/1999 11:47:00 AM
From: Enigma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
What is the gold in Fort Knox? dd



To: ForYourEyesOnly who wrote (29456)3/6/1999 3:13:00 PM
From: Bob Dobbs  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
THC (and Richard): You open up an interesting gold topic.

If you recall James Turk wrote of a old, well-informed friend of his by the codename 'Andre' who essentially makes the same claim as you, that the US doesn't own any gold because President Johnson sold it all.

I've heard anecdotal claims all over the map, including that Ft. Knox is barren of gold; that it's just an army tank school.

On the other hand, I've heard from more than one Denver Mint worker that there's an underground vault in Denver the size of a football field filled with it, and that they haven't allowed tours there in years because of "terrorist threats", whatever that means. Richard, can you verify?

That there's lots of gold held by the NY Fed under Manhattan is certain, as Federal people have verified it, but ostensibly it's mostly foreign gold for settling accounts, held in trust.

One thing is certain - there hasn't been an official gold audit for decades. AND officials are always making excuses that it's unnecessary and expensive. SURE!

THC, what facts do you know and what are your sources?

Bob



To: ForYourEyesOnly who wrote (29456)3/6/1999 6:22:00 PM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116764
 
<< but the 262 million ounces of gold reserves indeed belongs to the FRB.>>
There were "funny" lines drawn by FDR with "our" money during the depression. I'm not sure anyone knows to whom that gold belongs , or if it even exists.



To: ForYourEyesOnly who wrote (29456)3/6/1999 8:42:00 PM
From: Zardoz  Read Replies (7) | Respond to of 116764
 
"The U.S. Treasury has NO GOLD. But the Federal Reserve Bank indeed has gold. It has 262 million ounces of the shiny yellow. Most of it stored in the FRB of NY. However, the FRB does NOT BELONG TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, nor to the American people."

The TREASURY has no gold, true sort of. But:
"A large amount of the United States' gold reserves is stored in the vault of the Fort Knox Bullion Depository, one of the institutions under the supervision of the Director of the United States Mint. The remaining gold reserves are held in the Philadelphia Mint, the Denver Mint, the West Point Bullion Depository and the San Francisco Assay Office, also facilities of the United States Mint."
treas.gov
usmint.gov

But!!! the FRB is the CB of USA:
"The Federal Reserve System is the central bank of the United States. Established by Congress in 1913, the Federal Reserve System consists of the Board of Governors—a central governing body in Washington, D.C.—and 12 regional Reserve Banks"
stls.frb.org

And for total mind blowing reading:
www4.law.cornell.edu

SO FRB is the CB of the USA, and who's actions are monitored by the FOMC: federalreserve.gov

These people report to the congress, under the Humphrey-Hawkins Report. federalreserve.gov

SO... what gold the FRB has, which amounts and sales of are reported:
federalreserve.gov
11,047 Million or @ $287.50 = 38.42Mounces or 1200 Tons.{did I convert that right?}

But should the FRB require more, they must communicate with the Treasury who communicates with the US Mint to release more gold to FRB.

ALL FRB gold sales and holdings are reported:
federalreserve.gov
Comparisions of data shows that the US FED, through the US FRB has not sold any appreciable amounts since july 26, 96 till today.
federalreserve.gov
Gold stock: 11,050 Million Dollars POG: $385.78 july 26/96
28.64 M ounces

federalreserve.gov
Gold stock: 11,047 Million Dollars POG: $288.16 march 3/99
38.33M ounces

Dont forget this is DOLLAR terms of POG... Since July 26/96 the number of ounces has gone from 28.64M ounces to 38.33M ounces... or 12.36% compounded growth.

This is why I believe that the US has been in a collusion for supporting the POG. This is why I question the GATA claims. And this is why I've suggested to many that the US FED has not been selling, but buying. I mentioned this all a long time ago. This even shows that amounts held by each of the 12 district banks.


I think a better understanding of FED data would be the best thing for GATA. Not intended as insults, but research is power.

Now the question comes: How much gold is at the US Mint?