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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johnathan C. Doe who wrote (38347)	3/14/1999 11:54:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 67261

>Well, as a civilized society; we are that civilized society have to make that determination and it is called the Law.< Yes, and if that Law allows you to kill someone without first proving his or her expendability, the society that follows that Law is about is civilized as Nazi Germany. >If the law allows it; it is because civilized society using civilized institutions made that judgement call. If a minority of people see it some other way; well you get that in every decision no matter how large or small; there is always some small group that doesn't like the decision.< No doubt. In Nazi Germany there was always some small group that did not like the Law Nazi Germany. >If you have some of those people blowing up and shooting the other people; where is civilization at that point?< There is none, just as there was none in the case of those who struggled against the Nazis. But this is entirely irrelevant to the requirement for pro-abortion proponents to support the expendability of the human fetus. >The fact is that civilized society has in a civil manner decided to allow abortion.< And on this principle of yours “civilized” society could in a “civilized” manner decide to allow the extermination of children by almost fully delivering them and puncturing the backs of their skulls and sucking out their brains. On this principle of yours “civilized” society could in a “civilized” manner decide to allow the extermination of children that are just born. On this principle of yours society could in a “civilized” manner allow the extermination of children that are five weeks old, or two years old, or thirty years old or ninety years old. This principle of yours could allow a “civilized” society to in a “civilized” manner exterminate Jews according to the Law. In a “civilized” manner our “civilized” society could use your principle to by Law deny Blacks or Whites or Jews or Latinos the right to vote. This principle of yours could allow whoever develops Might enough to in a “civilized” manner very “civilly” destroy anything he desires. You cannot sidestep the pure barbarism here by sugarcoating it with a term like “civil manner.” It is still pure barbarism. It is killing and destroying without any principle that applies to all of society. It is killing and destroying purely on the basis of Might. You kill the unborn children merely because you can. The next “Hitler” to assault humanity may, unlike Adolph Hitler, prevail; and according to your principle, he will be ultimately right. >If you think abortion is uncivilized, well, you have others that disagree; more others as well.< Very well, then on what principle can they establish abortion as acceptable to civilized human relations? And why then cannot I apply this principle to my dealings with you or with any other human in our society?