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To: Ilaine who wrote (32667)3/17/1999 10:23:00 AM
From: DADEPFAN  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
There is a difference, however between flirting and flattery.

8^)

Dave D



To: Ilaine who wrote (32667)3/17/1999 10:39:00 PM
From: Graystone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Who knows
or
Flirting

People like sex.
I like women who flirt.
Outrageously.

Flattery, is nice, but only if sincere.
Flirting is nice wether sincere or insincere.

Flirting often leads to sex.
Sex may or may not lead to closeness.
Is developing closeness with someone, a form of flirting or flattery ?



To: Ilaine who wrote (32667)3/17/1999 11:21:00 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I think we may have a problem here. You are perfectly correct about men appreciating flattery uncritically, but the idea that men will not misinterpret ((according to your lights) interest as sexual interest is often (very often) mistaken. Many men have sex or the possibility of sex almost always on their minds (except when engaged in it) and view most women (almost any woman) in terms of sexual accessibility and potential for sexual satisfaction (most men are very liberal in their views). Women who flirt should be very careful not to mislead. I believe (I may be wrong) that any (even moderately unhideous) woman who wants to attract almost any heterosexual unaccompanied man can do so by showing interest, eagerness, or rubbing up against him, depending on how much is needed to overcome his variable resistance. I cannot recall any man who has resisted even interest. Many men are horribly timid and incapable of taking the initiative even in the face of obvious initiatives by women. I was with a distinguished scientist the other night at a convention and the damned fool was so full of himself and his conisderable achievements that he ran off two good looking women (both D.C. lawyers, I believe) who were being exceedingly friendly to us. Now, I had no reason to believe that sex would occur, but surely there were a couple of late drinks ... and who knows what. And after all, the women had stopped to talk to us ...
Flirting is a lousy deceptive language. I believe people should be much more outspoken. But until we dispose of the camouflage of our intentions, sexual relations are going to continue to be confusing, dangerous, disruptive. There are many wives and husbands who cannot express their intentions to one another. That might be a good place to start and learn.