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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (53246)	3/22/1999 11:47:00 PM
From: Gary Ng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570558

Cirruslvr, Re: Who would do you believe, a salesperson, or a director at Intel? >The Intel person, of course. >Who would you believe, a salesperson, or a director at Gateway? >The Gateway person, of course You are right except that the first person(and usually the only person) a potential customer contact is the salesperson. You don't call up the director to order a machine. Remembered you called them and they advised you about how useless PII was ? I don't know how they are paid. Now supposed they are paid by commission and they know that their upper management told them sales of K6-2 based system is on hold or they have to explain very clearly that it will be delayed. What do you think their general reaction will be ? Just tell the customer to buy a model which is compatible and available and start sales pitch to close the deal asap. Gary

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (53246)	3/23/1999 12:36:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1570558

Cringe-A-Lot - Re: " It isn't AMD's fault Gateway chose such a cheap motherboard to build their systems with. This is obviously Gateway's fault for using a POS motherboard" Sorry, Cringe - that was an APPROVED MOTHERBOARD - APPROVED by AMD. According to Gateway: zdnet.com "The anomaly was tracked to the PCI bus on the motherboard, which is manufactured by Microstar International. It wasn't seen in 100 percent of the machines, so some Gateway Select PCs using K6-2 have shipped. Ritter could not say how many." According to AMD: AMD-K6® Recommended Motherboards amd.com www1.amd.com (Select K6-2/400 and ATX MB) Microstar (MSI) MS-5169 Revision 2.1B & 4.0A are APPROVED motherboards for the K6-2 400 Mhz CPU !!! Well, now - just what kind of TESTING did AMD do on these Microstar Motherboards in order to help along their new favorite customer, Gateway ? Perhaps these will be relabeled K6-2 GateDelay PCs ! Paul

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (53246)	3/23/1999 12:40:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1570558

Cringe - Re: " Unfortunately for AMD, this motherboard problem will hurt their image with Gateway consumers. I wonder if many salespeople are like Sinclair. If so, the consumer will think it is an AMD problem. " Remember the AMD 350 MHz K6-2s which "wouldn't boot" WIndows 95? And now we have Gateway K6-2's that "BOOT SLOWLY" - presumably on Windows 98 ? Where there is smoke, there is FIRE. Get ready for the heat. Paul