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To: jbe who wrote (40901)	3/25/1999 11:25:00 PM
From: gmccon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

You guys are starting to catch on. Talk about wag-the-dog. Look at Clinton's Presidential military history. But first his non-presidential military history. A total coward, draft dodger! But now, Mr Tough guy has invaded Haiti, Bosnia, Iraq, and now Serbia. He's got Stealth B-2's dropping dropping 32K pounds of ordinance in the middle of the night on a holy war thats been going on for 600 years. What a man! Dodge the draft in VietNam, but kick ass, big time, on the proverbial fish in a barrel. Its the legacy, stupid. There must be some kind of a medal... How about a bronze cigar?

To: jbe who wrote (40901)	3/26/1999 12:44:00 AM
From: Douglas V. Fant	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

jbe, Your casualties on Chechnya seem light- did not 350,000 either die or get wounded? Chechnya and Russia; East Timor and Indonesia; Northen Arabic and Southern African Sudan; Kurdestan and Turkey, Iraq, and Iran; the Tatars in Russia; Tibetans in China; Madurese in Borneo; Nigeria- these are all countries with restive regions or ethnic groups that might desire "autonomy" from the current government that is forced upon them. When does/should NATO, or the UN, or the US or anyone go in and say "Hey, you;ve got to give up control of that portion of your country". What if Mexico goes to DC today and says to President Clinton- "Hey give us back Texas-it's ours"- should the UN back Mexico's demand? This area of "autonomy" for regions containing "minorities" however you define that term is a very slippery slope....

To: jbe who wrote (40901)	3/26/1999 1:09:00 AM
From: Douglas V. Fant	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

jbe (OT), Heck where is the US, Russia, the UN , or NATO or anybody to help in this sordid situation.... ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ News Article by TTB on March 25, 1999 at 11:02:45: Editorial: The scourge of slavery The Toledo Blade March 24, 1999 The U.N. children's agency's (UNICEF) has created a plan to end slavery in Sudan. That's the good news. The bad news is the fact that there exists a place on this earth where such trafficking in human beings still exists. Reports of sexual slavery have surfaced from the Philippines, Southeast Asia, and Bosnia after young women lured from hard times to the promise of jobs abroad found themselves charnel house captives or housekeeping slaves in foreign lands. The stories of child slavery have the power to disgust us more, as non-governmental organizations say it is Sudanese government forces that raid rebel villages to capture and abscond with children they would enslave. The official government response is that institutionalized enslavement is illegal. It blames tribal warfare and the Dinka tribe in the mainly Christian south and the Baggara tribe of the mainly Moslem north for abducting one another's children and sometimes enslaving them. No matter who's to blame, UNICEF says the practice will end with cessation of the civil war that has ravaged this east African nation south of Egypt and the Red Sea since 1983. That war, in which Sudan's Islamist government battles Christian and animist rebels in the south, has claimed 1.5 million lives -- a shocking fact given the low level of world outrage that surrounds it. UNICEF's hope is to get the warring parties to talk and end the fighting and the practices it says have devolved from it. It wants all sides to commit to ending slavery, to permit international inspectors, and to reunite families and communities that slavery has divided. Change is possible, given that the government in Khartoum, the capital, has asked for UNICEF's intervention. But uncertainty remains because of Sudan's history, defined by religious, political, and class strife with no government having yet devised an umbrella under which all citizens are comfortable. The outlook is particularly disheartening knowing that slavery in Sudan -- which the British waged war toward the end of the last century to eradicate -- still exists. Since it gained independence from Britain and Egypt, protests of the non-Muslim population against the Muslim-dominated government in Khartoum have characterized national life. This is a nation in need of all the outside help it can get, but one that must reach deeply into itself for the resources of soul its people need to get along with one another, to treat one another fairly.

To: jbe who wrote (40901)	3/26/1999 8:41:00 AM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

Clinton and his crew posing as defenders of human rights is a lie of Hitlerian proportions. The US imposed sanctions on Iraq have killed at least a million civilians according to UN estimates. This is many timers the number of Iraq soldiers killed during the Gulf war. And a lot of these were children. Sad to say the US has become an international bully now that it is the dominant power. The old dictum that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is being proved valid yet again.