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To: Yousef who wrote (54040)4/3/1999 2:03:00 PM
From: Shane Geary  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571188
 
Re: "Shane, please provide eveidence that AMD has a competitive IC
process."

Yousef,

We are changing the discussion here! My point was that AMD are technically accomplished in the fabrication side. They certainly are not as accomplished as Intel in most respects - although as I said a lot of that has to do with resources.

The question of whether AMD has a 'competitive' process (as opposed to simply technical considerations) brings in somewhat separate issues.

The fact that all AMDs MPUs are fabricated on a 0.25um process and that this process was introduced in full production a long time ago, after Intel but before others, and that with this process AMD has captured the largest share of the retail market and a significant share overall, surely indicates that this process is 'competitive'. It is not 'better', and neither does it appear to be 'as good'.

One important thing from a personal point of view: I am an engineer. I try to comment only on engineering issues on which I have some knowledge (although I can be as wrong as the next person, I will always attempt to be objective). I don't work for AMD or Intel, although I like both companies in different ways. I am not an AMD apologist.

I don't know AMD or Intel's yield details (what are the proportions of line yield, parametric/WAT yield, probe yield/speed binning, test yield?). Intel's certainly appears to be better (and, very important, more consistent).

>"Intel a speed advantage for their CPU's"

In Mhz that is undeniable, but as you well know that only makes the MPU better when all other things are equal.