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To: RDM who wrote (54099)4/3/1999 3:54:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 1579924
 
RDM - Re: " Wouldn't the answer vary some with chip architecture? High speed wires are important in architectures that have lots of long wires. High speed gates are more important in designs that do not have lots of long wires and have lots of cascaded gate delays."

Good points.

Chip lay out and proper floor planning also plays a major role.

Paul



To: RDM who wrote (54099)4/3/1999 6:48:00 PM
From: kash johal  Respond to of 1579924
 
RDM,

Re: Cu vs Al for INTC and AMD

I believe the answer is a tad bit more complicated.

Intel appears to use a less agressive rule set for it's contacts, via's and metal pitch. It results in a more robust "bullet proof" higher yielding process but also results in larger die sizes. Inherently RC will be less for such a process and so benefits from a reduction in RC will less in percentage terms.

AMD on the other hand employs a very agressive metal pitch and contact/via sizes. It's die are smaller but also closer to the "hairy" edge. It will benefit much more in terms of the RC reduction of cu- even at 0.18 micron.

One could see a 5-10% increase in clock speeds for AMD versus possibly only a 1-3% increase for Intel at 0.18 micron.

So the rationale behind AMD's choice is solid. Unfortunately it is a huge risk as well if they flub the Dresden volume ramp.

Regards,

Kash J.




To: RDM who wrote (54099)4/4/1999 10:33:00 AM
From: Steve Porter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579924
 
RDM,

There are a number of things that are really different with Copper vs. Alumnium that a lot of people are neglecting to mention, like how the different electrical characteristics affect the behaviour of what is known as a 'transmission' line (the long wires in your post). One of these days I'll get out my good text book and quote some of the more 'interesting' differences between the 2 (unless Shane cares to jump in).

Regards,

Steve