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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (20575)4/6/1999 12:07:00 AM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 71178
 
>>>>>If someone produces a comment by JFK that runs something like "Good, it worked, I'm glad Diem's dead" then I'd concede the point, but otherwise I don't see it as much more than the failure to understand another culture.<<<<<

Dammit, Fred. I don't really want to have to prove the point to you, but I guess you leave me no choice. I'll find the article somewhere, somehow, and post it to you. Can't remember, do you have an email address? Not gonna type the whole thing, you know.

Also, we need to get up to speed on the War Powers Act.



To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (20575)4/6/1999 12:52:00 AM
From: BlueCrab  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
>>What held Johnson and Nixon back was their own willingness to put politics ahead of the lives of the troops in the field.<<

Johnson was a victim of his military staff; Nixon, the leader of his. Nixon spent three years realizing our limitations, one year acting on them. Sorry, but that's the only explanation for 1969-75.

>>We not only bombed them<< Them, the Koreans, not Them, the Chinese. We did not bomb the Chinese until they crossed the border, because we really didn't expect them to cross the border. Thank God for small favors, Truman was not as small a man - nor as big a dunce - as his political enemies (MacArthur first and foremost) believed. Wonder where we'd be today had there been a President Douglas MacArthur.



To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (20575)4/6/1999 5:00:00 AM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
That's what Henry II of England said, "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" Who knows what he meant? He was flogged as a penitent anyway. Madame Nhu certainly believed that Kennedy was guilty and said as much.