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To: D. Long who wrote (2327)	4/6/1999 11:31:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Respond to of 17770

A quote from the article below advocating bombing our stauch ally Turkey (as nuke put it): "As you know, a freedom fighter is fighting for independence from someone we don't like; a terrorist is fighting for independence from someone we do." Let's Bomb Turkey ARTHUR HOPPE Monday, April 5, 1999 OUR LEADERS say we must keep on bombing Kosovo to save the Kosovars from being killed by the Serbs instead. People of good will can't help but applaud our humanitarian efforts, but I think we should stop bombing Kosovo and start bombing Turkey. The Serbs may have been kicking the Kosovars around lately, but Turkey has been oppressing the Kurds for nigh on 80 years. True, the Turks may not have slaughtered as many innocent citizens in recent weeks as the Serbs have, but over the years the Turks have built up a pretty darned impressive record of executing dissidents, burning villages and driving peasants into exile. Some will say that we can't stand idly by while 2 million Kosovars are being hounded by the evil Serbs. Nonsense, we are very good at standing idly by. Look how idly we stood by when the Hutus were hacking to death 800,000 Rwandans. Of course the Rwandans were not only black, but had no oil fields to speak of. Instead of bombing Kosovo in the humanitarian spirit, I say we should make diplomatic protests to Belgrade. Diplomatic protests worked just as well in punishing oppressors in China, South Africa and Latin America as did our bombs in Vietnam, Libya and Iraq. From all accounts, all our bombs have accomplished so far in Kosovo is to drive the Serbians into committing more and more atrocities. But if we must bomb someone to save our national honor, I say we should bomb Turkey. First of all, great big Turkey is easier to hit than tiny little Kosovo. Second, there are 25 million Kurds to save with our bombs -- more than ten times the number of persecuted Kosovars. To be sure, there are a few obstacles to bombing Turkey. For one thing, she's our staunch NATO ally. That means the Kurds who are fighting for freedom are not freedom fighters. Our State Department has officially labeled them as terrorists and rightly so. As you know, a freedom fighter is fighting for independence from someone we don't like; a terrorist is fighting for independence from someone we do. So the Kurds are official terrorists, and we certainly can't engage in a humanitarian bombing campaign in favor of terrorists. What about China? China is no friend of ours. Therefore, those fighting for freedom in China are freedom fighters, not terrorists. But China is awfully big, and it has nuclear missiles, too. There's no sense getting carried away by our humanitarian feelings. Then we have East Timor. The inhabitants declared the Democratic Republic of East Timor in 1975, and the Indonesians have been kicking them around ever since. As I recall, though, the Indonesians are our pals these days, so the East Timorians may well be terrorists. Anyway, ''Democratic Republic'' sounds vaguely communistic, and we certainly don't want to waste our vast arsenal of humanitarianism on a bunch of commies. Sri Lanka's a likely candidate. The Sri Lankans have been butchering the rebel Tamil Tigers for years. Unfortunately, I'm not sure who's on our side. But what about the Congo? Or Burkina Faso? Or maybe . . . Anyway, there are oppressed people all over the world who deserve our humanitarian bombs. So what have the Kosovars done to merit our magnanimous concern?

To: D. Long who wrote (2327)	4/6/1999 11:33:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

Why is it you cast doubt on Serbian heros? <<why this is something to be proud of, I havent figured out yet, although I imagine it speaks volumes to the Serbian nationalist mentality)>> They single handedly stopped the Muslim invasion of Europe. That was long before your parents came to the USA. Perhaps they(your European ancestors) were dead if not for the brave Serbs.

To: D. Long who wrote (2327)	4/7/1999 12:53:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

"The KLA did not even exist prior to 1997." The KLA is the latest front created by the Islamic offensive from Turkey. The cruelity and imperial ambitions of the Islamic "Ottoman Turks" is still the key to the instability in the Balkans. The Ottoman Turks invaded Europe from the East and pushed towards Italy until they were stopped by the Serbian forces in Kosovo in the fourteenth and fifteenth century. Although the outnumbered and poorly armed Serbs lost the two major battles, the ferocity of their resistance saved Europe from further invasion by the Moslem forces. The Ottoman Turks then turned their energies to consolidated their brutal occupation of Bulgaria and Greece. Greece and Bulgaria finally defeated the occupying Moslems in the eighteenth century and regained their independence. The Turkish Moslems still hold former Christian Constantinople. The most famous and ancient Orthodox Cathedral of Hagia Sophia is still desecrated by the Moslem-Turk invaders. The offensive of the Kosovaar Albanians is just the lastes thrust by the Moslem forces in Europe. Turkey is trying to once more surround Greece by creating a greater Albania in the Serbian Christian provinces of Kosovo and Macedonia. Once these provinces are sodily in the hands of the Moslem forces, the Turks will have once more surrounded Greece with Turkish inspired Moslem puppet regimes.