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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (55050)4/7/1999 6:08:00 PM
From: Michael Bakunin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
What about Keynes? I thought he was a famously successful speculator. -mb



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (55050)4/7/1999 6:29:00 PM
From: re3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Michael, when I was in uni, bonds were paying 16-17 %
One doe eyed student asked if a phd in finance helped the professor in the market...He said, yeah, it helps me understand why I lost money...

Howard



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (55050)4/7/1999 9:31:00 PM
From: Skeeter Bug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
>>3. The Finance Dept.
at Wharton, which mismanaged the money in the Penn endowment until the alumni
screamed for their heads. Of course, they were also fine tuning MPT while losing the
money.<<

ho ho ho ho.

mike, the knowledge gap here is obvious. one person takes personal responsibility for their belief system, continuously tests it against reality, continuously learns new things and lives an exciting life. the other sits back, takes no responsibility for anything and refers others to other people for the ultimate authority is his life. some people can't make up their own minds nor do they trust themselves. they live life relying on others. those types are risk averse.

there can be no balance.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (55050)4/7/1999 10:22:00 PM
From: BGR  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Michael,

That's a red herring and you know it. MPT never claims that academicians trade better than fund managers. According to MPT, trading performance of academicians on the average over the long term is supposed to be no better than the market when adjusted for risk. That, precisely, has been the case. So, how does that invalidate MPT?

To give an analogy, if you personal physician - while warning you against the dangers to cancer caused by smoking - nevertheless remains a chain smoker and dies to lung cancer, does that validate or invalidate his warning?

As for financial academics successfully advicing fund managers, sure. Any fund manager who took the advice from the teachings of MPT and invested in the appropriate index performed relatively well in a percentile scale (80%+ last year) over the years.

-BGR.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (55050)4/8/1999 12:16:00 AM
From: eWhartHog  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Michael,

I recall one of my professors at Wharton became involved with a partnership trading listed options in the early days of the CBOE. I spoke to an associate of his two years later and asked how the partnership had done. He replied they hadn't made much trading options, but did well selling their exchange seat when they liquidated. <g>

Cheers,
John