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To: Clarence Dodge who wrote (7000)4/11/1999 7:55:00 PM
From: Zeuspaul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14778
 
My main confusion lies in not knowing if these two apps will still execute unattended if the computer is left booted to a drive other than the drive I've installed them (Diskeeper/BE)on.

I believe you are going to have to chose one or the other. You can execute a backup program from any of your boot drives but it will not work properly.

The problem is changing drive letters. You have to configure and execute the backup software from a consistent boot. If you have a folder on the SCSI drive called C:\ta and you want to back up C:\ta and your backup software has been installed on the SCSI drive from a SCSI boot ..the backup software will look for C:\ta and back it up.

If you install and configure the backup software as above but execute it from your primary IDE NT boot it will look for C:\ta and not find it. The C drive is now your primary NT boot drive and the SCSI is F (most likely if you have three IDE drives).

Choose a 'C' drive and install and execute it from the chosen 'C' drive.

Convenience favors either your last evening boot drive or your first AM boot drive.

Also consider that 'clean' system you want to maintain. I have some computers that do not experience 'registry blote'. It is because I do not install and uninstall software. The machines are task specific and are generally quite stable and rarely experience difficulties.

So which drive to install to ?? Beats me!? Gravity tells me the primary NT boot unless there is a good reason to put it somewhere else.

Zeuspaul




To: Clarence Dodge who wrote (7000)4/11/1999 8:57:00 PM
From: Sean W. Smith  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 14778
 
Why are you running so many configs???

I chose to have separate isolated drives for (1)TA & broker (2)everything else, except (3)KOT


I think you unnecessarilly over complicated your life.

You have several issues to tackle if you wish to deal with.

Both Diskeeper and Backup Exec use schedulers, NT services and install components into \winnt hierarchy.

Therefore they must be INSTALLED on ALL THREE SETUPS to guarantee they will run every night despite which configuration your booted into at that point in time.

Now you have a decision and some expirementing to do.

There are two choices here.

1. Install each of the three copies in three diferent directories. once from each config. set all three up the same way and your done or are you???

Diskeeper will work fine this way. Backup exec will have a problem. Backup creates a catalog that tracks which files are on which tapes so you don't have to index the tapes at restore time. If you take this approach your catalog would be fragmented across three directories and would not appear as a whole contigous catalog.

I personally would never consider this alternative for my automated backup.

2. Install the program three times in the same directory and drive overwriting the existing files each time. This works well with lots of software and then you can share configuration information across the installs. Only have 1 program dir and still get all the common components and registry entries in the correct place.

you would have to expirement and see if its feasible with these two apps. Worth the effort, it often works.

The easiest solution is run one config and do it all from there. I have BackupExec and Diskeeper on my KOT but only run them manually. I never use it for extended periods. only to fix my other configs. I have half a dozen KOT computers at home so at least 1 should be working at any given point :)

EDIT: Also if all the drives are not visisble from all configurations then you have additional problems there. I would not recommend storing any data on any drives that may be hidden. In reference to the drive letter shifting problem that can occur across mutiple configurations. This really isn't a big problem since if you setup network shares for all of them you can use UNC's to reference the data from the backup.

Sean

Sean