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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E who wrote (34512)	4/12/1999 4:24:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

N., you say: "people who are soft on Christianity just can't stand it." Reminds me of the SI Clinton threads: "People who are soft on Clinton (or Clintonism) just can't stand it..." What I do understand (as distinct from stand) is that for your particular purposes (I am being very discreet here, you see), you need to stick to one particular interpretation of the historical Jesus (and to vigorously contest all others). For my part, I am and will no doubt remain a Doubting Thomas. I will not believe in the Resurrection, or anything else, until I have seen it with my own eyes, or until I have seen incontrovertible proof, as against categorical assertions. And, as a scholar myself (in a different field), I on principle remain wary of value judgments embedded in supposedly "objective" interpretations, as in the following: "Jesus was urging a program of shortterm moral acrobatics." Here I would like to raise another point. In my opinion, it is going to be virtually impossible to debunk Jesus altogether, simply because our culture is permeated with references to him and from him. I detest all the constant blather about "Our Judaeo-Christian civilization", but the fact of the matter is that there is such a thing. It is hard to imagine "our civilization" without: Bach's St. Matthew's Passion Beethoven's Missa Solemnis Mozart's Requiem Dante's The Divine Comedy Milton's Paradise Lost Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper Michelangelo's David & Sistine Chapel Ceiling Raphael's Madonna & Child etc., etc. Not to speak of the myriad sayings of Jesus that even the most atheistic of our citizens constantly use in conversation, without even being aware of their source.... Joan E.