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To: Scumbria who wrote (78866)	4/13/1999 6:21:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<Which games? Which card? Which drivers? By how much? Who cares?> 1) Quake II, Shogo, Incoming, Turok, and any other game that can be benchmarked for 3D performance. 2) Riva TNT, Voodoo2, and Voodoo3 (in other words, graphics cards that are available NOW, not vapor stuff.) 3) The latest drivers that Tom, Anand, and Sharky Extreme can get their hands on. 4) About a few frames per second faster. That's pretty good considering that the Celeron 400 is about $300 less than a K6-III 450. 5) People who don't hold double-standards like you do. <The point of my original post rookie was that a Celeron with a T+L graphics card will beat a PIII and probably cost less.> Which games? Which card? Which drivers? By how much? Who cares? (Oh, wait, that's what you said about the Celeron 400 beating the K6-III 450.) By the way, your point may very well turn out to be true, but it's still only SPECULATION at this point. You have absolutely no data to back up your claims, but then again, that's par for the course in your case. Tenchusatsu

To: Scumbria who wrote (78866)	4/13/1999 6:56:00 PM
From: ericneu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

The point of my original post rookie was that a Celeron with a T+L graphics card will beat a PIII and probably cost less. What is your answer to that oh objective one? Scumbria --- Your point boils down to: Celeron + non-existent T+L graphics card > PIII So what? How about this: PIII + T+L graphics card > Celeron + T+L graphics card Neither is terribly meaningful. What if the first generation of T+L accelerators suck? What if they're too expensive? What if games are being written to APIs that don't take advantage of hardware T+L acceleration? Etc, etc. - Eric