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To: Greater Fool who wrote (50898)4/16/1999 3:47:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
I absolutely agree with you on Sun. They have a flawed revenue model, too similar to IBM's.



To: Greater Fool who wrote (50898)4/16/1999 9:28:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
How the Two-Tier System Hurts the Public

THE SMALL INVESTOR

10:00 A.M.
-----------------
A small investor places an order
An investor wants to buy ten options contracts in XYZ Corp. The price, per contract, on the trading
screen is 6 bid, 6 1/2 ask. That means investors who buy options at the ''market'' pay $650 per
contract and if they want to sell that option they get $600. The investor puts in a ''market order'' at
the prevailing price or a ''limit order'' at 6 1/2. He assumes that is the best price available for
investors who want to buy.

10:01 A.M.
-----------------
The order is automatically executed...
The investor's brokerage, to save money, does not use floor brokers. Instead, the order is
automatically routed to the option's specialist post on the Amex floor, via the exchange's Auto-Ex
order-execution system.

10:01 A.M
----------------
...at a bad price
Seconds later, the order is automatically executed by the specialist, or a trader on the floor, at the
price on the screen--6 1/2. The investor pays $6,500, plus commissions.

Meanwhile...
A professional trader is buying the exact same option at a lower price.

THE PRO

10:00 A.M.
-----------------
A professional investor places an order
A professional investor places an order to buy 10 contracts in the same option. The bid-ask prices
on the screen are the same prices seen by the small investor--6 bid, 6 1/2 ask.

10:02 A.M.
-----------------
The floor broker announces the order
The pro uses a brokerage firm that employs an experienced floor broker. The broker walks to the
specialist post on the Amex floor and announces he wants to buy 10 contracts in the option.

10:02 A.M.
-----------------
A market maker takes the order
A trader in the ''crowd'' at the post consults his pricing data--not publicly available--and sees that
his firm's market in the option is 6 1/8 bid, 6 3/8 ask. He tells that to the floor broker.

10:02 A.M.
-----------------
The order is executed-at a better price
The floor broker buys the 10 contracts for the pro at 6 3/8, or $6,375, plus commissions.The better
price offered by the market maker--6 1/8 bid, 6 3/8 ask--is not reported on the trading screen,
which shows that the price for this option is still 6 bid, 6 1/2 ask.

DATA: BUSINESS WEEK



To: Greater Fool who wrote (50898)4/17/1999 6:54:00 AM
From: Olu Emuleomo  Respond to of 164684
 
>>>Sun's near term position (long-term for this thread, about a year) is okay, but long term will get hammered
by cheap x86/NT boxes, especially with AMD's K7.<<<

People have been predicting Sun's demise for over 5 yrs now.
You are no different.
BTW, AMD is a loser. Buy the stock and you will feel pain in your portfolio.
Just compare the long term charts of SUNW and AMD and you will see what I mean.

--Olu E.