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To: jach who wrote (24621)4/25/1999 12:36:00 PM
From: jach  Respond to of 77397
 
If CSCO gets IBM's PE multiple what will its price be:

Let's see:
IBM PE is about 30 only, in fact IBM earnings growth last qtr was about par with CSCO
CSCO current PE is more than 120.
So, simple calculation said, if CSCO gets IBM PE multiple it should be at 0.25 of its current price. And that is about 40$ only. All imo.



To: jach who wrote (24621)4/25/1999 12:37:00 PM
From: Uncle Frank  Respond to of 77397
 
Morning, Jach. Comparing csco and ibm p/e ratios
is an interesting exercise; got me comparing their
fundamentals. My conclusion is that magnitude of
revenue change isn't the key; we should be looking
at growth. I threw Mr. Softee into the pot and
came up with the following:

Company 5 yr. revenue growth ttm p/e
IBM 5.6% 28
MSFT 30.4% 67
CSCO 57.1% 138

I'm not a financial analyst, but superficially, the
relation between revenue growth and p/e seems pretty
evident based on this sample. Maybe Chuzz will provide
some insight into the matter if he reads this.

Frank




To: jach who wrote (24621)4/25/1999 1:26:00 PM
From: Brian Malloy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 77397
 
You keep doing this jach:

In your own words: "Simple logic said CSCO is way overpriced." and you go on to talk talking about earnings and market cap and so forth and so on relative to IBM.

However, you forget one key measure - something that an undergrad taking their first course in accounting or financial management gets drilled into their head. Without a relative measure such as ROI or ROE everything is just a number.

If CSCO spends $1 and makes $1.40 while IBM spends $1 and makes $1.15
then perhaps that is why CSCO can carry a high PE? Your lesson is to read up on ROI and ROE and report back to the class.

Also David Dreman, a great value investor, picks only two tech/inet stocks that may be appropriately valued given his models. They are CSCO and AMZN.

Regards



To: jach who wrote (24621)4/26/1999 2:05:00 AM
From: ed  Respond to of 77397
 
No, IBM is over priced.

With the revenue double of CSCO, IBM's profit is the same as that of CSCO!! Apparently, IBM's profit margin is 50% of CSCO.



To: jach who wrote (24621)4/26/1999 6:48:00 AM
From: Dragonfly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77397
 

Actually, you pointed out why IBM is less valuable as a multiple of its earnings than CSCO: IBM is growing much slower than Cisco.