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To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 10:19:00 PM
From: BTS  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908
 
I agree, I believe great things are ahead for TSIG, but I don't have enough knowledge of their business, or of Dr. Frankel, with all do respect, to know if he should sit on the board. I thought this TSIG message thread was for the exchange of opinions, both pro and con, and for the suggestion of possible opportunities for the company. I think the thread has gotten out of control and could ultimately become a detriment to TSIG if this micro management and awful over-analysis does not end soon. This company is hiring great people and making great alliances. That's what really matters right now. WHO CARES HOW MANY SHARES GORDON HAS!! I hope he gets as rich as Bill Gates. I know how many thousand I have, and I hope they make me rich too. That will happen if the company starts to execute in a big way, and every sign says they will be doing that very soon. They don't need distractions from a bunch of people who have done nothing more than buy a THIRTY-FIVE CENT STOCK!! Think about it.
p.s.
If Marty can get on the board based on his existing relationship with TSIG management, fine, great. If a proxy is issued, I'll vote for him. It should not get to that point only because a bunch of knuckleheads got together on SI and tried to make it happen.

I remain long and strong on the FUTURE OF TSIG!!
I am,
BTS (Better-Than-Senseless)



To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 10:55:00 PM
From: BCEAGLES  Respond to of 44908
 
Nay says I as well........I totally agree with Joe-nothing against Dr. Frankel



To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 11:06:00 PM
From: Renamed  Respond to of 44908
 
Well stated MskiHntr......NAY. EOM



To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 11:07:00 PM
From: REW  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 44908
 
Joe,

I happen to agree with your entire discussion.

However, the elimination of the loan privelege will have a positive effect on the look of the financials. If the situation arose to warrant the need for Gordon to again become the financier of last resort, it would be little problem to install some sort of agreement again. The situation would then dictate whether the new agreement would be better or worse than the eliminated language. The visual reminder of it's presence is the move being made by the shareholders to eliminate. I see no harm in that. The language is lost and the shareholders then feel the potential for share dilution is reduced thus instituting a calming effect. Some investors might be even more comfortable in making the initial investment.

As for Marty being added to the Board of Directors, I also happen to support that move. I do not support for the same reasons others do, however. I am not concerned the shareholders need a direct representative on board. The company in total is the representative of the shareholders. If the shareholders do not approve of the decisions made concerning the operations of the company, they have the right to immediately divest themselves of the investment.

I happen to feel Marty is qualified to sit on the board and that this board is light in members. He has already been partially/totally instrumental in some of the happenings within this company. If, as it seems, TSIG.com becomes the success the progression indicates, there will be room for more than 5, including Marty, to represent this Board. Who knows, there might be other members before we know it.

Dispersing the decision process of the Board across varing viewpoints will be important as the company grows and prospers. I fully imagine the COB/CEO will still carry a majority of weight in the decisions concerning the operation and direction of the company, but differing views need to be also presented and discussed. Occasionally there may be the need to reign in or alter some ideas and a Board with differing concepts can be healthy. After all the majority will still rule even if with compromise.

My view has always been the forward direction of the company and will continue to be directed that way. Most know the direction I look in if they have read me at all and paid any attention. The company has made great strides in a very short time. Greater strides are seen in the near future and continuing acceleration beyond. There are now 3 distinct roads being paved and synergistically entertwined. Some of the old ways will have to be ended or altered as the company continues to advance. That is the way of growth.

As always, my opinion

Bob



To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 11:20:00 PM
From: Suzanne Newsome  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 44908
 
Joe, I always enjoy reading your reasoned opinion on any subject connected with TSIG. Don't be such a stranger. Parenthetically, allow me to compliment you on the masterful job you did the night the 10KSB came out. The discussion you held on the PP was Silicon Investor at its best. A tremendous contribution!

I beg to differ with you on the subject of Marty on the Board of Directors. Marty will bring the shareholders' viewpoints and concerns to the table. Is it a slap in the face to current management? Management may have brought that on themselves by being less than open and straightforward on several occasions. I'll ask the questions once again. Has management been deliberately deceitful to further its own gains? Or was management walking a tightrope in an attempt to avoid outright disaster? Your call.

Perhaps you could share some of your expertise with us again. How many people does the typical, average board have? Until very recently, the TSIG board had three—R. Gordon, Henry, and brother Michael Gordon. Can we unanimously agree that this was NOT a diverse, balanced board? Hwang is a good addition—but he's 27 years old and Gordon hired him. Based on his posts, I suspect that Marty can get a little feisty. Yet, he is obviously able to work in concert with other people. Marty has proven himself by making substantial contributions to the company. Marty on the board is a win/win situation for the company and the shareholders.

There is currently owed to R. Gordon a balance of $350,000 which can—at Mr. Gordon's option—be taken in cash or converted to shares at $.15. This is at a time that the shares are trading at $.35. I understand that Mr. Gordon's money was a loan of last resort, taken without any pledge of collateral. Granted he should receive an appropriate return on his money for the risk taken. Perhaps 12%, or 15% or even 25%. But 230% seems inappropriate to me and grossly unfair to the stockholders, particularly when Mr. Gordon has the overwhelming advantage of insider knowledge.

You alluded to our duties as shareholders as being supportive. I would say our duty is to provide capital for the company. Beyond that, I would point out that a company is structured somewhat like government—there is intended to be a balance of power between the parties which join together in an economic enterprise. It is NOT incumbent on the shareholders to sit passively by and accept any and every action proffered by management. I was slightly astounded by Paul Henry when he stated that he knew the 26 million shares "looked bad" but basically said it was a safety net in case things got bad again. We are going to pay Golin/Harris good money to convince people to buy this stock, but oh by the way they should just ignore this little 26 million shares of potential dilution? Management has totally lost its perspective on this issue.

You said that this is not the company you bought into last April. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that point! I probably could not have dreamed up a company with as much potential as the real TSIG has at this point. It amuses me to hear about people who have owned the stock for a year and are thinking about selling. This company is 10 times more substantial than it was a year ago. Too bad to have waited so long and then miss out on the good things ahead.

Good to talk to you, Joe. Regards, Suzanne




To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/26/1999 11:23:00 PM
From: David A. Irvine  Respond to of 44908
 
Joe, AMEN!!!!

I've been waiting for someone like you to state a Nay so I could second it. I was dreading having to find the time to write down the opinion you stated.

BTW, even if I did opine that a new person is needed on the BOD, you can be sure it would be someone completely unrelated to TSIG yet familiar with the high technology industry. I would want the new BOD member to be someone with fresh ideas who has no preconceived notions as to what TSIG can and should do.

I am still here, long and strong!

-Dave



To: MskiHntr who wrote (26870)4/27/1999 11:39:00 AM
From: Jazzbo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 44908
 
Hello Joe and Bob,

Nice to hear from you, Joe, your posts are always well thought out and well-stated. Its also pleasant to read through dissenting opinions where personal attacks are absent.

I disagree with you and Bob about shareholders "micromanaging", or playing the heavy with current management, and (Bob) divesting ourselves of our shares should we disagree with the current and/or anticipated state of affairs.

As shareholders, we've a right to tell management what we think ought to be done, and of course, the company can politely ignore us, or give a listen. Agreeing with shareholders need not be the equivalent of acquiescing to mob (un)reasoning. The SI/RB threadmembers advocating the propositions on the table are shareholders, their (our) petition is no different than speaking out at a shareholder meeting.

Plenty of us have disagreed with management, but that's the nature of investing, hell, that's just human nature. We bitch, make suggestions, and if we still believe in the company, we hold onto our shares. Only if we completely lose faith in the company - management, the product, our vision of the future - then we divest.

This Marty question is a tricky matter. I've the highest regard for Marty, and great appreciation for what he's done for "my" investment. And there's the rub, "my" investment, "my" as in selfish. This is the perfect dilmma: two unsatisfactory solutions to a (perceived) problem, that of whether shareholders have a "shareholder" voice on the Board.

On the one hand, Marty's done a great job for "my" investment: he's a thorn in management's side, he's procured a significant addition in John Hwang, he's acted as conduit for we sub-A types who have ideas and complaints but lack the initiative or hutzpah (sp?) to communicate with management, he's got contacts, and he's no doubt done a few things for "my" investment that I know nothing about.

On the other hand, the current BOD is a pretty small, tight-knit group, and may not have the diversity it ought to. I'm not discrediting the current Board members; as you say, this isn't the company I first bought over eleven months ago. But still,I've a nagging doubt as to whether the vox populi penetrates the castle walls: witness the lack of forthrightness about the company's financials, or at least, the timeliness of disclosure. So maybe a plebian should be on the Board (pardon the metaphor Marty, you are anything but plebian). But, when the plebe ascends to the royal ranks, does he forget the boys from the old neighborhood? Will he stop by to chat, have a smoke and a beer, or, because of his royal trappings, will he be precluded from associating with we commoners, the shareholders?

I previously stated I'd like to see Marty on the Board. I've changed my mind. I think "my" investment is better served with Marty in his current position - it is a position, you know - as the peoples' messenger, and a lot more than that. Marty has management's ear, he has our collective ear, and he speaks both languages. I ask that Marty stay put, maintain the status quo, at least for now.

As for the 26 million share question, the terms could be more favorable to the company.

Best, Tim