To: Spamboy who wrote (3283 ) 5/2/1999 1:33:00 PM From: zonkie Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4128
Kowboy the man from the Astros says you talked to him 6 times and told you that there was no contract. You said you were going to get right back to the thread as soon as you found out whether ABFG had lied about already having a contract for the ad in right field. You said you were "outta here" if they had lied. Why did you change your mind? Does anyone agree with Kowboy that this was a simple miscommunication? ___________exchange2000.com To: Cindy Powell (1761 ) From: Kowboy Monday, Apr 19 1999 4:09PM ET Reply # of 3140 Howdy again, yall! Listen, everyone.....The whole issue as to whether ABFG is for real comes down to this Houston Astro question in my opinion. If it turns out that ABFG has lied about this AD, than they are nothin' more than a scam. If they would chose to lie to their shareholders about this advertisement - they would certainly be willin' to lie about the rest. If they have told the truth about this AD, than as far as I'm concerned they will continue to get the benefit of the doubt. It's just that dam# simple! If they lied - I'm outta here! If they told the truth than I'll stay in the ABFG saddle for the entire ride. I'll know here shortly and report back to this thread ASAP! _____________________ Anyone interested in getting the truth out should read this---> exchange2000.com Jeff Mitchell say's I talked to the same guy Kowboy talked to at the Astrodome. He keeps a log of all his calls and said at the time I called that Kowboy had called "six times" up to that point. Obviously Kowboy was quite nervous about something. The contact also told Kowboy the same thing he told me: 1) ABFG had no contract, 2) the only person from ABFG that the contact had talked to was Kellner, 3) I believe he said he and Kellner only talked once, but I'm sure he said they had only talked that week, which was well after the banner was supposed to have been in right field, 4) a right field banner costs $180,000 a year and was already taken, so it was impossible for ABFG to have even asked for it, and 5) no one in his office had ever discussed an ad deal with ABFG, let alone promised an ad spot in a place that was already occupied! _____________________exchange2000.com To: Kowboy (3195 ) From: zonkie Saturday, May 1 1999 7:16PM ET Reply # of 3285 >>>>>>> Kelly was told that the deal was "in the bag", in fact it wasn't, as I clearly stated in my last post. He did not take the time to verify this and announced it BEFORE the deal was signed.<<< Then if I follow you right you are saying that an employee who was in negotiations with the Astros said that Kelly could announce that there would be a banner in the right field section of the Astros and the deal was in the bag. ______________________exchange2000.com To: zonkie (3197 ) From: Kowboy Saturday, May 1 1999 7:33PM ET Reply # of 3285 Well, first of all.....No one lied! As I stated earlier in one of my posts. I believe a lie is when someone INTENTIONAL tells another person something that they KNOW is not true in order to deceive. I do NOT believe that to be the case here and furthermore, there was in fact, talks about an AD with the Astros and now they have confirmed that for me with a fax on the Astros letterhead. At worse...This was a simple miscommunication about the final stages of a negotiation over an AD. ___________________