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To: TREND1 who wrote (121671)	5/2/1999 5:34:00 PM
From: TREND1	Respond to of 176387

One more thing. This new Intel 810 chip set has direct digital connection to new flat screen monitors. No more dig to anilog to dig. Larry Dudash

To: TREND1 who wrote (121671)	5/2/1999 5:55:00 PM
From: TREND1	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 176387

An open letter to all DELL HEADS ! You people do not see it ! Since Intel's 386 to 486 eliminated the math co-proscessor, the trend has been that INTEL"s main chip set does more and more ! The day is coming when a computer will be a 21 inch flat screen monitor with an Intel chip set inside. So what is going to be the big difference between DELL's Intel based computers and Gateway's Intel's based computers and some unknown's INTEL's computer ????? I'll tell you ! Some will be blue, some will be green and some will be red (g) Now if you old enough to remember HP-35 calculator for $395 ! Our company bought little desks with locks for the HP-35. A few years later, the price was only a few dollars and every one left then on their desks over night (g) LIVE IN THE FUTURE ! NOT THE PAST !!!!! Larry Dudash PS: Please no more hate mail And no I am not the Devil !!!!

To: TREND1 who wrote (121671)	5/2/1999 7:27:00 PM
From: Michael G. Potter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Larry, It looks like only the graphics card is eliminated. The new chipset has graphics logic added equal to the i740. It is very weak compared to the last generation of videocards and the newer generation (from 3dfx, nvidia, ATi, and S3) far surpass what comes with the chipset. It poses some threat to ATI and S3 who both sell the graphic chips that tend to come on the very cheap models. The ISA bus has been slowly dieing and you can now find just about everything in a PCI version. Although the chip count is decreasing, the more that gets embedded into the core chipset, the greater the risk that some other vendor will offer a much better solution. Plus, Intel has enough FTC problems without then trying to go after the graphics market. Finally, DSPs are getting more and more powerful. That may be where the future chipset decrease comes from and then outside companies can write software for the DSPs. Michael

To: TREND1 who wrote (121671)	5/2/1999 8:45:00 PM
From: Meathead	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Larry, I've been working with the 810 for the last 9 months. I've also been working with the 820(Camino) and 840(Carmel). Do you know the differences between these chipsets? The 810 itself has no modem, sound or USB, that's handled by the south bridge (the ICH, yet another chip in the 'chipset'). Faster USB? No. USB is USB and no faster. The AC97 spec has been around since... yep 1997. Unfortunately, software sound and modem will always be a poor performer compared to dedicated hardware as it is burdensome overhead for the CPU and Northbridge. The main benefit of the 810 is it's integrated video controller. However, the 810 offers system designers the option of using a dedicated frame buffer (seperate video memory) or using main memory. If main memory is used, performance suffers a good deal. There's a differentiator of machine capability right there... just because machine A and B both use an 810 doesn't mean they'll perform similarly. If you eliminate the video frame buffer, and fully utilize AC97, it will take a 500Mhz CPU with 100Mhz SDRAM to perform as fast as a 233Mhz CPU with 66Mhz SDRAM using dedicated peripheral hardware. The 810 is just another small step in the evolution of the PC... nothing revolutionary here. The industry has been able to put an entire PC on a chip for a decade or more. Problem being, technology is moving so fast that by the time you get it to market it's severely underpowered and obsolete. Larry, if you think you are paying attention to the future of computing by basing your knowledge on magazine articles devoid of depth, and, by only focusing on how cheaply a basic PC can be produced, you're only fooling yourself. You are completely missing the real changes in technology that are radically changing the computing landscape. You are also missing how Dell's strategy is constantly developing to to take advantage of this fact. I only invest in what I understand. Do you? MEATHEAD MEATHEAD