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To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (57194)5/4/1999 4:21:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572918
 
Re: "I'm intrigued by your statement and would be interested in the source, since there was zero indication of inventory accumulation in the 1Q financials:"

Do you know if the inventory numbers include die inventory, or are they only finished units?

EP



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (57194)5/4/1999 4:29:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 1572918
 
Tad - Re: " I'm intrigued by your statement and would be interested in the source,"

My source - which is "third hand" - comes from an AMD source in the Pacific Rim area. Apparently, orders for these devices are slowing to a trickle.

You may want to see if you can spot some low-ball K6-2 pricing in that region as AMD attempts to unload these parts at very low prices - before they become "obsolete".

Paul



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (57194)5/4/1999 5:39:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572918
 
<But I keep coming back to what I believe is the key element of the story - the Xeon pricing structure. If I understand the market reports, the Xeon sells at $950, $1,850 and $3,950 for 512K, 1M and 2M cache versions. Unless I'm missing something, that means Intel is selling SRAM at about $2,000 per MB and is throwing in the processor for free.>

The thing is that each product is targeted towards different market segments. For servers, L2 cache is vital. Not many IT departments will complain about Xeons selling for $2,000 or $4,000 if the entire server costs over $40,000 anyway. But for workstations, a large L2 cache isn't as vital. That's why a Xeon with the minimum L2 cache sells for much less, because they're meant to go into workstations that don't cost more than $10,000. The larger cache versions are meant to go into $40,000 quad-processor servers.

So if AMD sells the server version of the K7 for 25% less than Xeon, they're only going to cut $4,000 off the cost of the entire server. And what happens if, for instance, the unproven server chipset that supports the K7 fails? The damage done could cost the company substantially more than just $4,000.

In the retail market, customers are very price-sensitive. But in the server and workstation market, customers are much more price-insensitive. IT departments care much more about RAS (reliability, availability, and serviceability) than a mere 10% discount.

Tenchusatsu



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (57194)5/4/1999 10:16:00 PM
From: Gary Ng  Respond to of 1572918
 
A.A, R: we're confronted by the possibility that a significant portion (maybe up to 20%) of Intel's $9 billion in operating profit from the Intel Architecture segment in 1998 was generated by SRAM sales.

How many Xeon was sold in Q1 ?

Gary