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To: Yaacov who wrote (7076)5/6/1999 4:01:00 PM
From: coldhardtruth  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 17770
 
opusdei.org

I felt the need to confirm your assertion that Opus Dei is anti-Semetic.

...looks more like an off-shoot of the Roman Catholic church to me.



To: Yaacov who wrote (7076)5/6/1999 7:28:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
> The only two countries in Europe that have the influx under control are Switzerland where they have complex quota system on immigration, Greece, where they so bloody uncivilized that beats them! (that is with the exception of Palestian and Kurdish terrorists that have been welcomed with the open arms!!)

Yaacov, stop throwing out manure please! The Turkish minority in Greece is 300,000 strong and flourishing. They are represented in the Greek Parliament and have full citizenship rights along with freedom to practice their religion in their mosques. So your statement above is grossly false!
As far as Palestinian and Kurdish freedom fighters that is a totally different subject...way off topic and got about 100 posts to go!



To: Yaacov who wrote (7076)5/7/1999 4:36:00 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
Yaacov,

I can't let you throw a fascist leader such as Jean-Marie Le Pen in the same bag as Ms. Arlette Laguiller, leader of French party Lutte Ouvriere, who is a charming, tolerant, far-leftist fellow from the Trotskyist brand:

Thanks God we don't have here people like Jean Marie LePen or Arlette Laguiller. You Know what extremes I am talking about!

I know that for our American audience, it's a wild heresy to praise anything on the far-left/socialist side of the political spectrum but that's not a motive for tarnishing what is still a peaceful, humanist ideology.

BTW, when you claim that Italy's not manipulated by the Opus Dei and other secretive, reactionary cliques... Give me a break!! Pope John Paul II has beatified Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, the founder of the Opus Dei ( mond.at ), making him a Saint!! Do I have to remind you of the Propaganda 2 Lodge, headed by the shadowy Licio Gelli? It's a well-known fact that, since the early 1990s, the Catholic Church has radicalized itself and the Pope himself has been appointing hardliners across the board: from Monseigneur Andre-Mutien Leonard, eveque de Namur (Belgium) to the dismissal of Monseigneur Jacques Gaillot, the popular, liberal French Archbishop.
(See: partenia.fr )

All in all, since the end of WWII, Italy's Christian Democracy has been squeezed between the Mafia(s) and the Vatican --not to speak of the US patronage through the CIA... This whole imbroglio was named Tension Strategy and led to the assassination of Aldo Moro in an attempt from preventing him to bring the Communists in executive posts.

Finally, your benign-neglect attitude toward immigrants is disarming: you say ''we, charitable Europeans, feed them, nurse them, care about their social security... all in all, we are a color-and-background-blind society!'' Yaacov, are you sure you're living in Europe? Then you throw in this insidious nuance of yours: ''One small correction, can't compare the post war Jews with the immigrants. Safardim, Ashkanzim or Hasidim were not immigrants.They were as Europeans, as the beasts that marched them to the death chambers.'' And there I catch you falling in the very same ethnically prejudiced mindset as the one you denounce against the Nazis! Europe is a geographic concept, not a cultural one, much less an ethnic one: Muslim Albania is in Europe, isn't it? If there's any cultural area to be dealt with at all, it's the Mediterranean cradle --where we all belong to, whether of a French, German, Algerian, Moroccan, or Slav descent, as far as Culture matters...

A final remark on your envoi:
we can not send them to camps!!!

The European Jewish community


Let me tell you that, in Antwerp, there are about 8% of Orthodox Jews who allegedly vote Vlaams Blok, that is a racist, far-rightist party in Belgian Flanders which won over 28% in Antwerp's last general elections. So, let me offer you a mission: tell your fellow Jews in Belgium that they're just next to the North African folks on Vlaams Blok's ethnic-cleansing shortlist!

Regards,
Gustave.